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Chris H

In message <[email protected]
s.com>, (e-mail address removed) writes
request for reveiw of Sun Tsu and Jonathon Livingstone


neither is very big. A decent review would be nearly as big as the
books themselves- and would lose ... something.

We know that but I don't think that Invalid would benefit from either
book. Wrong state of mind.
 
J

jameskuyper

:) said:
Hi,
No, I do not have to.

You misinterpreted his statement. He did not mean that you're required
to read them, only that reading them is required in order to gain any
appreciation of what they're about. No summary significantly shorter
than the book itself can give you more than a tiny fraction of the
understanding you'll game from reading the book itself.
 
?

:)

neither is very big. A decent review would be nearly as big as the
books themselves- and would lose ... something.

Hi,

Sorry for dumb question, but what do you mean by "something" ?

PS
Yep dumb questions come out of dumb mind.
 
M

Martin Ambuhl

jameskuyper said:
You misinterpreted his statement. He did not mean that you're required
to read them, only that reading them is required in order to gain any
appreciation of what they're about. No summary significantly shorter
than the book itself can give you more than a tiny fraction of the
understanding you'll game from reading the book itself.

Given the gross misunderstandings or misstatements about Sun Tzu, mainly
from management and new-age folk whom I suspect of at best selective
reading, I tend to completely discount the recommendation of "The Art of
War." Had even a tiny fraction of those who praise it actually read it,
they would behave more humanely.

Given the "deep thoughts" of _Jonathan Livingston, Seagull_, I tend to
shelve _all_ recommendations from anyone who considers it more than
lightweight entertainment of no real value.
 
P

Phil Carmody

Chris H said:
Said the man who refused to look at something to make life better.

Is a life where you *order* other people to read books that
you like better than one where you don't?

Phil
 
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luserXtrog

Hi,

What lightweight and inspiring books do you recommend, apart from K&R ?

Regards.

Alice in Wonderland by Lewis Carroll.
Yes, really.
The Norton Critical Edition even has a deleted scene!
 
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Slow_Mind

luserXtrog said:
Alice in Wonderland by Lewis Carroll.
Yes, really.
The Norton Critical Edition even has a deleted scene!

Hmm, If it is about deleted scenes I suspect much better cases could be
found.

Peace.
 
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luserXtrog

Hmm, If it is about deleted scenes I suspect much better cases could be
found.

Peace.

It is not "about" deleted scenes, so your comment makes
absolutely no sense whatever.
You really do need to read it (or have it read to you).
 
S

Slow_Mind

luserXtrog wrote:

It is not "about" deleted scenes, so your comment makes
absolutely no sense whatever.
You really do need to read it (or have it read to you).

Thanks, I specially like the "or have it read to you" part. This by
itself is an inspiration for me.

Peace.
 
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user923005

Slow_Mind said:
luserXtrog wrote:



Thanks, I specially like the "or have it read to you" part. This by
itself is an inspiration for me.

It's much more a math book than a programming book.

Especially the Cheshire Cat/derivitive inference
 
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Richard Bos

Chris H said:
No point,. You have to read them yourself. Both are Zen type books.

I've not read Jonathan Livingstone Seagull, but have heard rather
off-putting things about it. The new age is over and done with.

I _have_ read Sun Tzu's Art of War, and if you think _that_ is zen, you
must hail from California.

Richard
 
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luserXtrog

It's much more a math book than a programming book.

Especially the Cheshire Cat/derivitive inference

The Mock Turtle dialog is all about aliases.
The caucus race is about deadlocks.
Even the potions, cookies, and mushrooms are about
shifting your perspective to solve a problem.
It's broader than either math or programming,
it's practical psychology.
 
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Chris H

Richard Bos said:
I've not read Jonathan Livingstone Seagull, but have heard rather
off-putting things about it.

Such as? I am curious. There are some other books by the same author
which I prefer.
The new age is over and done with.

Sadly I think you are right. Commercialism, consumerism, self interest
(in fact the American Way) destroyed it.
I _have_ read Sun Tzu's Art of War, and if you think _that_ is zen, you
must hail from California.

Not a chance... I just have a quirky sense of humour :)
 
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Richard Bos

Chris H said:
In message <[email protected]>, Richard Bos

Such as? I am curious. There are some other books by the same author
which I prefer.

That it is wannabe-philosophical, with a depth better suited to
thought-of-the-day programs and coffee mugs than to a real book.
Sadly I think you are right. Commercialism, consumerism, self interest
(in fact the American Way) destroyed it.

Ah. No. That, I fear, is a false dichotomy. New Age very much was part
of the American Way. That's why so many self-help books were written
about it, and what's more important in both sides of that philosophy,
sold.

Richard
 

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