FAQ server down?

R

RobG

I haven't been able to reach the FAQ server for several days, is it
still functioning? Is there an FAQ maintainer?
 
S

Scott Sauyet

Jake said:
On 30.03.2011 02:03, wrote RobG:
I haven't been able to reach the FAQ server for several days, is it
still functioning?
For me here, it is.

I can get to the main FAQ page, but not to the FAQ Notes.

-- Scotgt
 
J

J.R.

I can get to the main FAQ page, but not to the FAQ Notes.

-- Scotgt

Right now, I can get to the FAQ Notes:
<http://www.jibbering.com/faq/notes/>

It seems to me that the FAQ Server (in UK) is working properly, but
there is some kind of trouble on some dns / router between the Server
and your Internet host provider in Europe. Here in Brazil (Rio de
Janeiro), The FAQ Server is accessible.
 
J

J.R.

Right now, I can get to the FAQ Notes:
<http://www.jibbering.com/faq/notes/>

It seems to me that the FAQ Server (in UK) is working properly, but
there is some kind of trouble on some dns / router between the Server
and your Internet host provider in Europe. Here in Brazil (Rio de
Janeiro), The FAQ Server is accessible.

Uh-oh! The FAQ Notes page is accessible, but the internal links are
dead. Damn it!
 
P

P E Schoen

"J.R." wrote in message
Uh-oh! The FAQ Notes page is accessible, but the internal links
are dead. Damn it!

It's dead to me:

Internet Explorer cannot display the webpage

I also tried "FTP: open jibbering.com" but it timed out.

Here's a "minifaq": http://www.dannyg.com/ref/jsminifaq.html

Some others:
http://www.irt.org/script/script.htm
http://www.faqs.org/faqs/computer-lang/java/javascript/
http://www.intranetjournal.com/faqs/jsfaq/index.html
http://www.linuxtopia.org/online_books/javascript_guides/javascript_faq/index.htm

I can't vouch for their accuracy, but they may be better than nothing.

Paul
 
T

Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn

P said:
in message news:[email protected]...

It's dead to me:

Internet Explorer cannot display the webpage

[x] You know only Internet Explorer.
[x] You know only Microsoft Windows.
I also tried "FTP: open jibbering.com" but it timed out.

This is a joke, right?

Mostly rubbish, as I expected when I read who wrote it. See also my sig.

Contains several wrong answers, and random selection shows hopelessly
outdated references and code (like to quirks of Internet Explorer 3 and
pseudo-comments).

A snapshot of the cljs FAQ as of 1998-07-13. Being 13 years out of date, it
can obviously not be recommended as a reference for today's scripting.

Hopelessly outdated. JavaScript is _not_ event-driven since a decade (when
"DHTML" features of the language were moved to the Gecko DOM), for example.
http://www.linuxtopia.org/online_books/javascript_guides/javascript_faq/index.htm

The section "What is JavaScript?" already contains utter nonsense such as
that JavaScript would not be compiled at all (when we know for sure it is
JIT-compiled to interpreted byte-code instead), which does not fill me with
confidence about the other sections.
I can't vouch for their accuracy, but they may be better than nothing.

Wrong advice is *worse* than no advice at all.

The Internet Archive has the latest version of the cljs FAQ available
through its Wayback Machine:

<http://replay.waybackmachine.org/20090630013335/http://jibbering.com/faq/>

This bookmarklet comes in handy for where there is no capable browser
extension:

http://waybackmachine.org/form-submit.jsp?url=%s

Assign it the keyword "archive" or whatever you prefer. Note that this is
for the beta version of the Wayback Machine (<http://waybackmachine.org/>);
if you prefer the original version (but I have not found the beta to be
unstable), use

http://web.archive.org/*/%s

but omit the protocol-part, for example

<http://web.archive.org/*/jibbering.com/faq/>


HTH

PointedEars
 
D

Dr J R Stockton

In comp.lang.javascript message <1f05743f-5fb6-4e55-896c-2fd327561db2@f3
1g2000pri.googlegroups.com>, Tue, 29 Mar 2011 17:03:18, RobG
I haven't been able to reach the FAQ server for several days, is it
still functioning? Is there an FAQ maintainer?

I keep a copy at <http://www.merlyn.demon.co.uk/$clj-faq.htm>. My
broadband is down at present so I cannot check the version; but it
should be GS's last, "Version 32.2, Updated 2010-10-08.".

Additional material is at ... .js-faq-u.htm, and an annotated version of
that FAQ is at ... .js-faq-a.htm.
 
P

P E Schoen

"Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn" wrote in message
P E Schoen wrote:
[x] You know only Internet Explorer.
[x] You know only Microsoft Windows.

I don't think this is a browser or OS issue.
This is a joke, right?

I had expected the usual request for user name and password or other message
from the server. I did not expect to access the web page.
The section "What is JavaScript?" already contains utter nonsense
such as that JavaScript would not be compiled at all (when we know
for sure it is JIT-compiled to interpreted byte-code instead), which
does not fill me with confidence about the other sections.

I found the interactive examples interesting and helpful. It also seemed to
be much better than the others, which you have been kind enough to evaluate.
Wrong advice is *worse* than no advice at all.

Perhaps, but it depends on the degree of "wrongness" and the level of the
user.
The Internet Archive has the latest version of the cljs FAQ
available through its Wayback Machine:

That is helpful, but it seems that the server is working again:

http://jibbering.com/faq/

Thanks,

Paul
 
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Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn

P said:
Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn" said:
P said:
It's dead to me:
[x] You know only Internet Explorer.
[x] You know only Microsoft Windows.

I don't think this is a browser or OS issue.

My point exactly. Why post this Microsoft-unhelpful "error message" then?
I had expected the usual request for user name and password or other
message from the server. I did not expect to access the web page.

To begin with, FTP is a bit outdated since it is completely insecure; there
is no authentication, no encryption, it requires two open ports for one
transfer, and there are several other (security) weaknesses that make it a
pain to work with. FTP over SSH, SCP, and finally SFTP have almost replaced
it except perhaps for mirroring (although rsync has done its part there as
well). It stands to reason that Jim Ley would not have (unrestricted) FTP
connections supported to his Web space.

(Ironically, too, most downloads are done over HTTP nowadays since it also
has less overhead than FTP, and it does not require another client program.
On the other hand, several Web browsers have been extended with a passive
FTP client to support FTP downloads, or they even integrate file system
access and other protocols, becoming a kind of Swiss Army Knife.)

Second, port tcp/21 (FTP control) or tcp/20 (FTP data) being
closed/filtered, or perhaps tcp/20 being filtered on your side, has nothing
to do with the state of tcp/80 (HTTP) on the remote side. Apples and
oranges.

Perhaps, but it depends on the degree of "wrongness" and the level of the
user.

There are no degrees of "wrongness". And the problem is that the very
people who would need to read a FAQ depend on its being correct, because
they cannot (at a glance) tell correct and incorrect statements on that
topic apart.


PointedEars
 

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