Is it any good?

Discussion in 'Python' started by Simon Foster, Oct 27, 2003.

  1. Simon Foster

    Simon Foster Guest

    I have seen it, and I don't like it, in fact I'm not very keen on any
    of the Deitel and Deitel books, so that's -1 from me. I would
    recommend "Learning Python" as a first book, but that's quite old now,
    maybe someone has a more up-to-date recommendation. If you are an
    experienced programmer (but new to Python) then there's plenty of
    material in "Python in a Nuthell".
     
    Simon Foster, Oct 27, 2003
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    Simon Foster Guest

    PS. It looks like the 2nd edition of "Learning Python" will be out in
    December. You can have a look at the O'Reilly website for details:

    http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/lpython2/
     
    Simon Foster, Oct 27, 2003
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    Tim Ronning Guest

    Hello list,

    I wonder if I could get some feedback from the list on a Python book I'm
    about to order from the net. The book is called "Python How to Program" by
    Deithel & Deithel. Issued on Prentice Hall 2002. I'm not an experienced
    Python programmer and I'm looking for a comprehensive but also an
    "understandable" book. I'm also open for suggestions.

    Best regards

    Tim Ronning
     
    Tim Ronning, Oct 27, 2003
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    Tux Guest

    I highly recommend the Visual Quickstart Guide book titled Python by Chris
    Fehily. It's very clear, with lots and lots of good, short illustrative
    examples. It doesn't cover everything, but is an excellent starter book,
    and once you've covered the material it present, you'll probably be able to
    get whatever else you need from the online docs at python.org.

    Mike
     
    Tux, Oct 28, 2003
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    Jules Dubois Guest

    On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 00:47:01 +0100, in article
    Deitel and Deitel have a mixed reputation. I've heard a few more negative
    comments about their other books than I've heard postive comments.
    Are you an experienced programmer? If so, I recommend _Python in a
    Nutshell_, by Alex Martelli. I think it's one of the best technical
    references available on any programming subject.

    It's well-written and it's as comprehensive as you're going to get in a
    book. Unfortunately for books, new versions of the software may be
    published at a much quicker rate than new versions of the books covering
    them. For a reference, you could also print some of the nice documentation
    available for Python. I paid ~US$60 for the ~1000 pages I took to a local
    printer.

    Is it understandable? Definitely. However, it's not an introductory
    programming text. (Even experienced programmers may find some topics
    suitable for "Guru Meditation." I still have trouble with Custom
    Meta-Classes in Chapter 5, but that's just me.)

    If you don't consider yourself an experienced programmer, have you looked
    at _Learning Python_ and/or _Programming Python_, both published by
    O'Reilly and Associates?
     
    Jules Dubois, Oct 28, 2003
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    Alan Gauld Guest

    I have the Deitel book and find it good as an intro to a huge
    range of topics - maybe the only book on pyGame? - but in each
    case it (infuriatingly) stops just at the point where I need
    more. In other words it gives enough to get you interested in a
    topic but not quite enough to use as a reference for real work.
    Given the size of the book and its scope that's not surprising
    and as a taster its fine.

    The basic Python coverage is better elsewhere but if you only
    want one book on Python and are happy digging detail online then
    its probably OK.

    An alternative (and no more expensive) is a combination of a
    basic tutor (Quick Python, Learning Python if you already can
    program, my book or Ivan van Lanningham's if you can't) to get
    started plus something like Programming Python or Text Processing
    in Python or one of the Python Web/XML books - whatever your
    specialism is likely to be....

    Alan G.
    Author of the Learn to Program website
    http://www.freenetpages.co.uk/hp/alan.gauld
     
    Alan Gauld, Oct 28, 2003
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    rzed Guest

    Simon Foster wrote:
    [snippage]
    Written by some Lisp practitioner, I assume? But I like the name; I
    myself am a user of Python in a nuthell.
     
    rzed, Oct 28, 2003
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