[OT] availability of most recent postings

[Jan Faerber]

Hello,

is it true that in the last few weeks or months on alt.html the time period
has been reduced in which the most recent postings are availabel by a
newsreader?

 

[Duende]

While sitting in a puddle Jan Faerber scribbled in the mud:

Hello,

is it true that in the last few weeks or months on alt.html the time period
has been reduced in which the most recent postings are availabel by a
newsreader?

Yes. New posts now show up within 3 months.

 

[Toby Inkster]

is it true that in the last few weeks or months on alt.html the time period
has been reduced in which the most recent postings are availabel by a
newsreader?

How should we know? Ask your news server admin.

 

[Andy Dingley]

is it true that in the last few weeks or months on alt.html the time period
has been reduced in which the most recent postings are availabel by a
newsreader?

This depends on your particular news server (Chello, in your case).

AOL and Google both seem to be flakey at present though.

 

[Jan Faerber]

This depends on your particular news server (Chello, in your case).

Does it not depend on the server where the news group is hosted?

AOL and Google both seem to be flakey at present though.

In this group I can not read postings which are older than three or four
days with Knode. In another newsgroup where I subscribed I can still read
postings from december 04.
I haven't tested it with Opera or other newsreaders yet.

Or doesn't my particular news server treat different groups in a same
manner? Or any other news server...

 

[Steve Pugh]

Does it not depend on the server where the news group is hosted?

Nonsensical question. Newsgroups aren't hosted on one particular
server.

In this group I can not read postings which are older than three or four
days with Knode. In another newsgroup where I subscribed I can still read
postings from december 04.
I haven't tested it with Opera or other newsreaders yet.

The newsreader shouldn't make a difference unless you've configured
one of them ro only download the most recent X messages, in that case
you'd get older mesages from groups with less traffic.

Or doesn't my particular news server treat different groups in a same
manner? Or any other news server...

Most news servers keep messages longer on low traffic groups.

Steve

 

[Jan Faerber]

Nonsensical question. Newsgroups aren't hosted on one particular
server.

Really?!! But I can install a news server on my computer ... well, I can not
because I don't know how to do it by now how to start this process. So the
newsgroups are either registered on a pc or hosted by the provider who owns
the news server?

The newsreader shouldn't make a difference unless you've configured
one of them ro only download the most recent X messages, in that case
you'd get older mesages from groups with less traffic.

So then the news server can set the interval or the range what is low
traffic, middle traffic and so on?

Most news servers keep messages longer on low traffic groups.

Steve

And groups.google.com has its own huge hard disk?

 

[Hywel Jenkins]

Really.

But I can install a news server on my computer ... well, I can not
because I don't know how to do it by now how to start this process. So the
newsgroups are either registered on a pc or hosted by the provider who owns
the news server?

Nope. They're hosted by thousands of news servers and "registered" to
none.

 

[Jan Faerber]

Nope. They're hosted by thousands of news servers and "registered" to
none.

Is it not like a DNS name of a webpage? I mean you can not have the same IP
adress on two different machines. You can have some parts of a HP e.g. one
/ some directories on a different machine which is sometimes a problem with
frames.

Or do you have to register a news server and then you can decide which
newsgroups you host?

 

[Richard]

Andy Dingley wrote:

Does it not depend on the server where the news group is hosted?

In this group I can not read postings which are older than three or
four
days with Knode. In another newsgroup where I subscribed I can still
read
postings from december 04.
I haven't tested it with Opera or other newsreaders yet.

Or doesn't my particular news server treat different groups in a same
manner? Or any other news server...

Troll style post.
You say you can't read new posts for 4 days, yet here you are replying to a
new post on the same day.

If Knode is your newsreader, then you need to learn how to adjust the
filters so it will show more current posts.

 

[Toby Inkster]

Is it not like a DNS name of a webpage?

No. Just because it has dots in it, doesn't mean it has anything to do
with DNS.

Or do you have to register a news server and then you can decide which
newsgroups you host?

No. There is no "registration".

 

[Hywel Jenkins]

Is it not like a DNS name of a webpage?

Nope. Newsgroups don't have IP addresses, do they?

I mean you can not have the same IP adress on two different machines.

Irrelevant.

 

[Si Ballenger]

Does it not depend on the server where the news group is hosted?


In this group I can not read postings which are older than three or four
days with Knode. In another newsgroup where I subscribed I can still read
postings from december 04.
I haven't tested it with Opera or other newsreaders yet.

Or doesn't my particular news server treat different groups in a same
manner? Or any other news server...

Most ISPs have their own news servers on which they decide how
long to retain the postings. alt groups may be retained for
shorter times if set that way by the admins. Your news reader
settings determine what is downloaded from the news server to
your news reader. I've never heard of the news reader you are
using, so I don't know how its settings work.

 

[Steve Pugh]

Troll style post.

Nope. Just another example of our inability to comprehend.

You say you can't read new posts for 4 days, yet here you are replying to a
new post on the same day.

He said that he can't read postings OLDER than four days, not that
can't read postings NEWER than four days.

Steve

 

[Michael Fesser]

.oO(Jan Faerber)

Is it not like a DNS name of a webpage?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet

Micha

 

[Hywel Jenkins]

Troll style post.

That's rich, coming from you, Stupid.

You say you can't read new posts for 4 days,

Oh, Bullis, Bullis, Bullis. That's not what he said at all. He said
that posts *older* than three or four days are missing. Read it again:
"In this group I can not read postings which are older
than three or four days ..."

Pretty unambiguous to even the most intellectually challenged. Well,
perhaps not the most ...

 

[Jan Faerber]

No. Just because it has dots in it, doesn't mean it has anything to do
with DNS.


No. There is no "registration".

OK ... thank you very much for replying to all of you.
I don't want to start a discussion on this topic.