Style Police (a rant)

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thoolen

On 26/09/2011 6:17 PM, Retahiv Oopsiscame wrote:
1> Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.programmer

1> Neither have you, it seems. And who's idiot enough to use his real
1> name on the internet?

What does your question of Attardi have to do with Java, Oopsiscame?

1> Who the hell are you talking about? There's nobody here by that name.

What does your pontification have to do with Java, Oopsiscame?

1> On the other hand, we might make some deductions from your accusation.

What does your pontification have to do with Java, Oopsiscame?

1> The people trolling here seem to be Jane Doe, kaffelatte, and you, for
1> the most part. Maybe also thoolen.

Definitely not thoolen, Oopsiscame.

1> (The rest seem to be either normal or misinformed, rather than
1> actively and intentionally trolling.) And you're probably not
1> referring to yourself. Perhaps that Jane Doe wacko?

That would be the nymshifting troll better known as "murphy" and,
previously, as "phlatArse". I recommend you killfile murphy, Oopsiscame.
The same goes for everyone else here. And when he morphs again, as
inevitably he will, repeat the process.
 
J

Jane Doe

That would be the nymshifting troll better known as "murphy" and,
previously, as "phlatArse". I recommend you killfile murphy, Oopsiscame.
The same goes for everyone else here. And when he morphs again, as
inevitably he will, repeat the process.

You have a problem with my posts?
Why?

Murphy proved very useful. That body of work is the most comprehensive
history of your stupidity throughout Usenet I have witnessed in many a full
year.
Read ^my^ history and weep - sonny, been around long before you
used foreskin as a pissball!
http://groups.google.com/groups/pro...ADk7Z3lXgGeTdurgrupBR83yIxYw6bR18xAEEdUv8GGyA

Just what John takes any payola from your drivel is their problem.
You will not see me evading filters as you do, nor will it matter a bean
to me where filters direct. I do not post crapola, all verified, all by your
own hand. You read my posts, there is plenty of purpose,
watching you spin and foam.. as Murphy said, "Sunshine"! LOL

Binning your lame redirect and reinstalling the information line.
Stuff you do not want made public goes here..

Derbyshire on Facebook.
http://www.facebook.com/pderbyshire2?_fb_noscript=1
%Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality

Derbyshire the 'Shroom Boy.
http://mushroomobserver.org/observer/show_user?_js=off&_new=true&id=621
%I can’t buy anything online. No credit card, and Canadian debit cards can’t
%be used in lieu of them for e-commerce.
%(As for why no credit card, well, frankly, my finances, and my reasons for my
%financial decisions, are none of your damn beeswax. No offense. :))

Derbyshire the L00N.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.kia-mennie/msg/c9946955fb73b48c?dmode=source
%I've known about these problems of his for three years, and they seem
%to be worsening rather than improving. I ask again, what is going on
%with his parents? Presumably he's still living with them; are they
%unable to get their son some help?

Derbyshire the Wannabe.
http://groups.google.com/group/carl...abf1bfcc79?q=Derbyshire+"Carleton+University"
%Campus security backup arrives, as to the "real cops". They mention to
%Paul that he's going "downtown" where he will be their guest for "a long
%time". As he is being dragged out of the building, Paul is screaming
%"What do you mean 'a long time'? I have things to do tonight!"
%ed: I hear Paul is now the proud owner of a "No Trespass" restraining
%order to keep him from the premises of Carleton University.

Derbyshire the Thespian.
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.../5ab94b2f737d0f5c?show_docid=5ab94b2f737d0f5c
%Paul "Harold Yarmouth" Derbyshire fancies
%himself as a "computer expert" - his words.
%To him the rest of us mortals are blindingly
%stupid playthings of his. Call me
%nuts for taking objection to the tag.
%Paul being "expert":
%http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.ms-windows.misc/msg/9bd899e7b4dd5c5e?dmode=source

%HP PS/2 mouse on XP Media Center Edition acting up. The mouse "sticks"
%sometimes at certain horizontal or vertical positions and has to be
%picked up and shaken.
 
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Seth Tisue

$$_>Derbyshire (spazums) caused <[email protected]> to wish:
$$_>
$$_>>>
$$_>>> > None of the nasty things that you have said or implied about me are at
$$_>>> > all true.
$$_>>>
$$_>>> Holy cow! This guy hasn't changed one bit (except a new fake name, I
$$_>>> see).
$$_>>
$$_>>Neither have you, it seems. And who's idiot enough to use his real
$$_>>name on the internet?
$$_>>
$$_>Plenty of "normal" Usenet posters do this daily, right here in cjlp also.
$$_>You did too, once. Thinking one and all would fall for that display
$$_>of stupidity of the event has become the rope that hangs you, Paul.
$$_>http://al.howardknight.net/msgid.cgi?STYPE=msgid&MSGI=<[email protected]>
$$_>Proving (to you) one cannot TROLL Usenet using their own name.
$$_>Only full blown IDIOTS try it.
$$_>
$$_>The very same IDIOTs use Google Groups "hiding". LOL
$$_>IP address: 74.12.180.78
$$_>Reverse DNS: [No reverse DNS entry per
$$_>toroon63nszp05.srvr.bell.ca.]
$$_>City (per outside source): Toronto, Ontario
$$_>
$$_>Same DNS as Paul G Derbyshire of Bennet St, Pembroke.
$$_>How strange is that ?
$$_>
$$_>>> Paul Derbyshire! It's been years! Still trolling well, I see.
$$_>>
$$_>>Who the hell are you talking about? There's nobody here by that name.
$$_>>
$$_>Not in posting ID, sure, but you sure live and breathe, Paul[..]albeit with
$$_>the aid of a freebie Shrink and a host of stabilising freebie drugs!
$$_>
$$_>>On the other hand, we might make some deductions from your accusation.
$$_>>
$$_>Oh do .. tale your classic erroneous presuppositions and build yourself a
$$_>dream.
$$_>
$$_>>The people trolling here seem to be Jane Doe,
$$_>>
$$_>Definitely. Wholly FLOWN (flag) stamped, signed, delivered by registered post.
$$_>And? You are going to do what about that, Derbyshire Troll.
$$_>
$$_>>kaffelatte,
$$_>>
$$_>Whomever the **** that poster is you best get some proof before some k00k (one
$$_>of your other names) threatens suit for defamation! LOL
$$_>
$$_>>and you, for the most part.
$$_>>
$$_>Attardi hasn't been here five minutes. You are quick to judge or recognise
$$_>yourself easily LOL
$$_>http://groups.google.com/groups/pro...ADfXj-vwhd9j4wh1TzPUDmwMZdjjkHRqd2dfOv7c9ZT9A
$$_>
$$_>>Maybe also thoolen.
$$_>>
$$_>oh cute. Not. Denial. Paul?
$$_>
$$_>>(The rest seem to be either normal
$$_>>or misinformed, rather than actively and intentionally trolling.)
$$_>>
$$_>From your record - all traceable to YOU.
$$_>
$$_>Murphy's List:
$$_>
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$$_>00101010 <[email protected]>
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$$_>Alice <[email protected]>
$$_>Arne Këndoj <[email protected]>
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$$_>B1ll Gat3s <[email protected]>
$$_>A Canuck <[email protected]>
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$$_>ClassCastException <[email protected]>
$$_>Cthun <[email protected]>
$$_>Chad Carmichael <[email protected]>
$$_>dA.b0mB <[email protected]>
$$_>dark-zark-fark <[email protected]>
$$_>Deep Green <[email protected]> (forgery)
$$_>Deeyana <[email protected]>
$$_>De Lurker <[email protected]>
$$_>Derek Yancey <[email protected]>
$$_>Extravagan <[email protected]>
$$_>Ferdinand the -14th <[email protected]>
$$_>Fuschia, President-Elect of the Bright Purplish-Green Council
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$$_>George Arctos <[email protected]>
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$$_>kensi <[email protected]>
$$_>KitKat <[email protected]>
$$_>Meerkats <[email protected]> (forgery)
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$$_>Mrs. Danforth <[email protected]>
$$_>Mike Faramis <[email protected]>
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$$_>Seamus MacRae <[email protected]>
$$_>Snicker-snack! <[email protected]>
$$_>Tim <[email protected]>
$$_>Thursday's Leftovers <[email protected]>
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$$_><[email protected]>
$$_>Willy Wonka <[email protected]>
$$_>Zapotec <[email protected]>
$$_>
$$_>>And you're probably not referring to yourself.
$$_>>
$$_>And you are again chatting to yourself, likely.
$$_>See how easy it is to put thoughts up, with no
$$_>basis. Anyone can do that, nothing at all "clever " about it.
$$_>
$$_>>Perhaps that Jane Doe wacko?
$$_>>
$$_>
$$_>All are "whacko" except you, Paul. How true that is it your
$$_>view of the World. A "for Free" view I would add.
$$_>
$$_>+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
$$_>%%%From: Cthun <[email protected]>
$$_>%%%Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.programmer
$$_>%%%Subject: Re: Style Police (a rant)
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$$_>%%%On 26/09/2011 6:13 PM, Retahiv Oopsiscame wrote:
$$_>%%%>> On 16/09/2011 6:26 AM, Retahiv Oopsiscame wrote:
$$_>%%%>>>> [calls me a liar]
$$_>%%%>>
$$_>%%%>>> No! None of the nasty things that you have said or implied about me
$$_>%%%>>> are at all true.
$$_>%%%>>
$$_>%%%>> What?? Where did I call you a liar?
$$_>%%%>
$$_>%%%> Two posts ago.
$$_>%%%
$$_>%%%I did not.
$$_>%%%
$$_>%%%>> Lisps tend to accrue fairly standard libraries of third-party macros
$$_>%%%>> everyone learns to recognize.
$$_>%%%>
$$_>%%%> More complexity to learn. And this stuff is supposed to make the
$$_>%%%> programmer's job *easier*?
$$_>%%%
$$_>%%%All programming languages and libraries have "complexity to learn".
$$_>%%%
$$_>%%%>> And of course you usually have access to the macro's source.
$$_>%%%>
$$_>%%%> "Having access to" and "being able to read and understand" can
$$_>%%%> sometimes be worlds apart. In my years of working with other peoples'
$$_>%%%> code, I've seen shit that will turn you white. Also check out The
$$_>%%%> Daily WTF.
$$_>%%%
$$_>%%%Fortunately, standard library macros don't tend to be terrible like that
$$_>%%%-- at least for open source implementations.
$$_>%%%
$$_>%%%>> The ability to define functions or classes already suffices to allow
$$_>%%%>> programmers to turn a language into a Tower of Babel,
$$_>%%%>
$$_>%%%> Call semantics for functions are well defined -- argument evaluation,
$$_>%%%> etc. Those for macros are pretty much arbitrary -- whatever the macro
$$_>%%%> author intended. (Or didn't, but caused anyway.)
$$_>%%%
$$_>%%%A specious argument. What a function's results are is just as arbitrary,
$$_>%%%but we accept functions.
$$_>%%%
$$_>%%%>> yet nearly all languages allow user-defined functions and/or classes in
$$_>%%%>> some form or another, and ones that allow neither are considered archaic
$$_>%%%>> and crippled.
$$_>%%%>
$$_>%%%> A car without an automatic ignition would also be considered archaic
$$_>%%%> and crippled; that doesn't mean a car without a satellite radio would
$$_>%%%> be.
$$_>%%%
$$_>%%%What about one without fuel injection?
$$_>%%%
$$_>%%%>>> Something familiar in how you write. You remind me of someone I had a
$$_>%%%>>> very long argument with here, long ago. Appropriately, his name was
$$_>%%%>>> "Bent".
$$_>%%%>>
$$_>%%%>> [implied insult deleted]
$$_>%%%>
$$_>%%%> No. None of the nasty things that you have said or implied about me
$$_>%%%> are at all true.
$$_>%%%
$$_>%%%WTF??
$$_>%%%
$$_>%%%>> Quick quiz:
$$_>%%%>
$$_>%%%> I finished school a while ago. Go **** yourself.
$$_>%%%
$$_>%%%Okay. I think maybe we're done here.
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$$_>%%%On 19/09/2011 10:15 PM, (e-mail address removed) wrote:
$$_>%%%> A Canuck, 3x7r4vagan, and thoolen, all posting from the same
$$_>%%%> host within 5 minutes of each other, to the same newsgroup,
$$_>%%%
$$_>%%%What does that coincidence have to do with OS/2, tholenbot?
$$_>%%%
$$_>%%%> and all sharing the same misattribution problem:
$$_>%%%
$$_>%%%What does your classic erroneous presupposition have to do with OS/2,
$$_>%%%tholoon?
$$_>+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
$$_>
$$_>Your behavior, Paul, is beyond ludicrous in the mind of the informed
$$_>observer. What it is in your head which directs your thinking
$$_>of the World out there owing you a stage littered with fools for you
$$_>to toy with at will is a total mystery, one I would wager even your shrink
$$_>struggles with.
$$_>It is not the responsibility of anyone using Usenet to provide you with a
$$_>free psycho analysis, hand feeding you a "cure". This as not only is it
$$_>that the lies you publish would cloud such a diagnosis but the worth of
$$_>professional assessment in a text only environment is as of much value
$$_>(real worth) as the opinions of one of your holed socks!
$$_>http://i51.tinypic.com/28us11y.jpg
$$_>
$$_>It is very clear you have not grown beyond knowing your activity is
$$_>archived, is traceable, and is yours.
$$_>"Retahiv Oopsiscame" <[email protected]>
$$_>is the name you used to argue with "(e-mail address removed)"
$$_>[http://al.howardknight.net/msgid.cgi?ID=131612707500]
$$_>all the while leaping the thread with;
$$_>"Jerry Gerrone" [http://al.howardknight.net/msgid.cgi?ID=131613873900]
$$_>"Lies, damned lies, and statistics" is most appropriate for you to
$$_>have some fun with.
$$_>
$$_>Article =
$$_>http://al.howardknight.net/[email protected]>
$$_>Google Archive =
$$_>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.off-topic/msg/58b746e6ae52c1ff?dmode=source
$$_>Parent Thread =
$$_>http://groups.google.com/group/alt..../58b746e6ae52c1ff?q=author:[email protected]
$$_>
$$_>
$$_>Today you believe it is "safe" to pop the name again, sad mad prat.
$$_>Whois "Retahiv Oopsiscame ' --->http://preview.tinyurl.com/Derbysh-reTrolls
$$_>
$$_>I gather even you are capable of joining the dots, Derbyshire?
$$_>
$$_>IP address: 76.64.158.18
$$_>Reverse DNS: bas13-kitchener06-1279303186.dsl.bell.ca.
$$_>City: Toronto, Ontario
$$_>
$$_>From: Retahiv Oopsiscame <[email protected]>
$$_>Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.programmer
$$_>Subject: Re: Style Police (a rant)
$$_>Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 09:48:40 -0700 (PDT)
$$_>Message-ID:
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$$_>NNTP-Posting-Host: 70.54.8.115
$$_>
$$_>IP address: 70.54.8.115
$$_>Reverse DNS: bas1-ottawa10-1177946227.dsl.bell.ca.
$$_>City : Montreal, Quebec
$$_>Country : CA [Canada]
$$_>
$$_>Give this your best shot at maths, Paul, you're the expert;
$$_>http://66.39.71.195/Derbyshire/hypergal.html
$$_>Do build the audience a picture from how it is 32 months after
$$_>"Retahiv Oopsiscame" posts from your neighbourhood
$$_>in "chat" with your "Jerry Gerrone" sock, the identical ID is used to
$$_>again "chat" with you mimicking the performance you put out now as
$$_>"Cthun" - not at all dismissing you are using a SMTP DNS you are
$$_>not permitted to use - what is the logical possibility of such an
$$_>event being sheer coincidence, Paul?
$$_>Two entirely disconnected identities being addressed by the same
$$_>persona who, using the same argumentative approach
$$_>and the same "bait/switch" presentation fills the group with
$$_>rants of self-proclamation rants (airs and graces).
$$_>Give up the numbers, Paul.
$$_>Crunch them down.
$$_>You got all night.. and no neighbors!
$$_>http://i51.tinypic.com/28us11y.jpo
$$_>
$$_>"Retahiv Oopsiscame" goes on the list.
$$_>
$$_>Attardi best come up with something new or that ID too
$$_>I add to "Murpohy's List".

Jolly well done!
Well past time that Jave wannabe pest got his comeuppance.
 
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Seth Tisue

$$_>Derbyshire (spazums) caused <[email protected]> to emulate a bot
$$_>with:
$$_>
$$_>>That would be the nymshifting troll better known as "murphy" and,
$$_>>previously, as "phlatArse". I recommend you killfile murphy, Oopsiscame.
$$_>>The same goes for everyone else here. And when he morphs again, as
$$_>>inevitably he will, repeat the process.
$$_>
$$_>You have a problem with my posts?
$$_>Why?
$$_>
$$_>Murphy proved very useful. That body of work is the most comprehensive
$$_>history of your stupidity throughout Usenet I have witnessed in many a full
$$_>year.
$$_>Read ^my^ history and weep - sonny, been around long before you
$$_>used foreskin as a pissball!
$$_>http://groups.google.com/groups/pro...ADk7Z3lXgGeTdurgrupBR83yIxYw6bR18xAEEdUv8GGyA
$$_>
$$_>Just what John takes any payola from your drivel is their problem.
$$_>You will not see me evading filters as you do, nor will it matter a bean
$$_>to me where filters direct. I do not post crapola, all verified, all by your
$$_>own hand. You read my posts, there is plenty of purpose,
$$_>watching you spin and foam.. as Murphy said, "Sunshine"! LOL
$$_>
$$_>Binning your lame redirect and reinstalling the information line.
$$_>Stuff you do not want made public goes here..
$$_>
$$_>Derbyshire on Facebook.
$$_>http://www.facebook.com/pderbyshire2?_fb_noscript=1
$$_>%Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality
$$_>
$$_>Derbyshire the 'Shroom Boy.
$$_>http://mushroomobserver.org/observer/show_user?_js=off&_new=true&id=621
$$_>%I can’t buy anything online. No credit card, and Canadian debit cards can’t
$$_>%be used in lieu of them for e-commerce.
$$_>%(As for why no credit card, well, frankly, my finances, and my reasons for my
$$_>%financial decisions, are none of your damn beeswax. No offense. :))
$$_>
$$_>Derbyshire the L00N.
$$_>http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.kia-mennie/msg/c9946955fb73b48c?dmode=source
$$_>%I've known about these problems of his for three years, and they seem
$$_>%to be worsening rather than improving. I ask again, what is going on
$$_>%with his parents? Presumably he's still living with them; are they
$$_>%unable to get their son some help?
$$_>
$$_>Derbyshire the Wannabe.
$$_>http://groups.google.com/group/carl...abf1bfcc79?q=Derbyshire+"Carleton+University"
$$_>%Campus security backup arrives, as to the "real cops". They mention to
$$_>%Paul that he's going "downtown" where he will be their guest for "a long
$$_>%time". As he is being dragged out of the building, Paul is screaming
$$_>%"What do you mean 'a long time'? I have things to do tonight!"
$$_>%ed: I hear Paul is now the proud owner of a "No Trespass" restraining
$$_>%order to keep him from the premises of Carleton University.
$$_>
$$_>Derbyshire the Thespian.
$$_>http://groups.google.com/group/comp.../5ab94b2f737d0f5c?show_docid=5ab94b2f737d0f5c
$$_>%Paul "Harold Yarmouth" Derbyshire fancies
$$_>%himself as a "computer expert" - his words.
$$_>%To him the rest of us mortals are blindingly
$$_>%stupid playthings of his. Call me
$$_>%nuts for taking objection to the tag.
$$_>%Paul being "expert":
$$_>%http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.ms-windows.misc/msg/9bd899e7b4dd5c5e?dmode=source
$$_>
$$_>%HP PS/2 mouse on XP Media Center Edition acting up. The mouse "sticks"
$$_>%sometimes at certain horizontal or vertical positions and has to be
$$_>%picked up and shaken.

%Do not forget the LIST%

Murphy's List:
..--- . ... ..- ... <[email protected]>
00101010 <[email protected]>
3k7e4intna <[email protected]>
3x7r4vagan <[email protected]>
3x+r4v4g4n <[email protected]>
Alice <[email protected]>
Arne Këndoj <[email protected]>
Boojum <[email protected]>
B1ll Gat3s <[email protected]>
A Canuck <[email protected]>
Canuck <[email protected]>
ClassCastException <[email protected]>
Cthun <[email protected]>
Chad Carmichael <[email protected]>
dA.b0mB <[email protected]>
dark-zark-fark <[email protected]>
Deep Green <[email protected]> (forgery)
Deeyana <[email protected]>
De Lurker <[email protected]>
Derek Yancey <[email protected]>
Extravagan <[email protected]>
Ferdinand the -14th <[email protected]>
Fuschia, President-Elect of the Bright Purplish-Green Council
<[email protected]>
George Arctos <[email protected]>
Greg Kelly <[email protected]>
Greg Sandoval <[email protected]>
Gheerax IV <[email protected]>
Handkea fumosa <[email protected]>
Hieronymus S. Freely <[email protected]>
Hydrocon <[email protected]>
Henry Harrison <[email protected]>
Henderson <[email protected]>
Heike Svensson <[email protected]>
Harry Greer <[email protected]>
Janie Zanie <[email protected]>
Jerry Gerrone <[email protected]>
John Kirkpatrick XVII <[email protected]>
Katie Gerrolds <[email protected]>
Kevin Hadron <[email protected]>
kensi <[email protected]>
KitKat <[email protected]>
Meerkats <[email protected]> (forgery)
Mister Scott <[email protected]>
Mrs. Danforth <[email protected]>
Mike Faramis <[email protected]>
Mamac <[email protected]>
Nancy 3 <[email protected]>
Nancy 4 <[email protected]> (forgery)
Nebulous <[email protected]>
Nightcrawler <[email protected]>
Nougat Surprise <[email protected]>
Orange Green <[email protected]>
Purpleswandir <[email protected]>
Retahiv Oopsiscame <[email protected]>
RichB <[email protected]>
(e-mail address removed)
SFTV_troll <[email protected]>
Some Guy <[email protected]>
Sulfide Eater <[email protected]>
<supercalifragilisticexpialadiamaticonormalizeringelimatisticantations@averylongandannoyingdomainname.com>
Spock <[email protected]>
Series Expansion <[email protected]>
Seamus MacRae <[email protected]>
Snicker-snack! <[email protected]>
Tim <[email protected]>
Thursday's Leftovers <[email protected]>
thoolen <[email protected]>
thoolen <[email protected]>
thoolen <[email protected]>
<[email protected]>
Willy Wonka <[email protected]>
Zapotec <[email protected]>
 
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thoolen

On 26/09/2011 8:50 PM, "Jane Doe", an obvious murphy sock, wrote:
NaN> Newsgroups:
comp.lang.java.programmer,comp.lang.java.help,comp.lang.lisp

NaN> Derbysh!re (spazums) caused <[email protected]> to wish:

Who is "Derbysh!re (spazums)", murphy? There is nobody in this newsgroup
using that alias. And what does your paranoid belief that your imaginary
bogeyman is able to control Oopsiscame and others have to do with Java
or Lisp, murphy?

NaN> Plenty of "normal" Usenet posters do this daily, right here in cjlp
also.

What does their foolishness have to do with Java or Lisp, murphy?

NaN> You did too, once.

What does your unsubstantiated claim regarding Oopsiscame have to do
with Java, murphy?

NaN> Thinking one and all would fall for that display of stupidity of the
NaN> event has become the rope that hangs you, Paul.

Who is "Paul", murphy? There is nobody in this newsgroup using that alias.

What does your URL have to do with Java or Lisp, murphy?

NaN> Proving (to you) one cannot TROLL Usenet using their own name.

What does your anonymous trolling have to do with Java or Lisp, murphy?

NaN> Only full blown IDIOTS try it.

What does your stupidity have to do with Java or Lisp, murphy?

NaN> The very same IDIOTs use Google Groups "hiding". LOL

What does your stupidity have to do with Java or Lisp, murphy?

NaN> IP address: 74.12.180.78
NaN> Reverse DNS: [No reverse DNS entry per
NaN> toroon63nszp05.srvr.bell.ca.]
NaN> City (per outside source): Toronto, Ontario

What does that have to do with Java or Lisp, murphy?

NaN> Same DNS as Paul G Derbysh!re of Bennet St, Pembroke.

Who is "Paul G Derbysh!re", murphy? There is nobody in this newsgroup
using that alias.

NaN> How strange is that ?

What does your strangeness have to do with Java or Lisp, murphy?

NaN> Not in posting ID, sure, but you sure live and breathe,
Paul[..]albeit with
NaN> the aid of a freebie Shrink and a host of stabilising freebie drugs!

Who is "Paul", murphy? There is nobody in this newsgroup using that alias.

NaN> Oh do .. tale your classic erroneous presuppositions and build
yourself a
NaN> dream.

What does your unsubstantiated claim that Oopsiscame's presuppositions
are erroneous have to do with Java or Lisp, murphy?

NaN> Definitely. Wholly FLOWN (flag) stamped, signed, delivered by
registered post.

What does your admission to trolling have to do with Java or Lisp, murphy?

NaN> And? You are going to do what about that, Derbysh!re Troll.

Who is "Derbysh!re Troll", murphy? There is nobody in this newsgroup
using that alias.

NaN> Whomever the **** that poster is you best get some proof before
some k00k (one
NaN> of your other names) threatens suit for defamation! LOL

That poster is one of your other socks, murphy. Still suffering from
memory problems, murphy? And what does your unsubstantiated and
implausible claim that Oopsiscame sometimes calls himself "k00k" have to
do with Java or Lisp, murphy?

NaN> Attardi hasn't been here five minutes.

What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to do
with Java or Lisp, murphy? Attardi has a history in this newsgroup,
according to Google, that goes back years and includes a number of
instances of trolling, murphy.

NaN> You are quick to judge or recognise yourself easily LOL

What does your unsubstantiated claim that Oopsiscame is an Attardi sock
have to do with Java or Lisp, murphy?

What does your URL have to do with Java or Lisp, murphy?

NaN> oh cute. Not. Denial.

What does your denial have to do with Java or Lisp, murphy?

NaN> Paul?

Who is "Paul", murphy? There is nobody in this newsgroup using that alias.

NaN> From your record - all traceable to YOU.

What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to do
with Java or Lisp, murphy? It is most certainly not true that most of
the regular posters in comp.lang.java.programmer are all socks of a
single user, murphy. Still suffering from paranoid delusions, murphy?
Murphy's List:

What does your Lits o' Haet have to do with Java or Lisp, murphy?

NaN> And you are again chatting to yourself, likely.

What does your unsubstantiated claim that Oopsiscame is an Attardi sock
have to do with Java or Lisp, murphy?

NaN> See how easy it is to put thoughts up, with no
NaN> basis.

How ironic.

NaN> Anyone can do that, nothing at all "clever " about it.

How ironic.

NaN> All are "whacko" except you, Paul.

Who is "Paul", murphy? There is nobody in this newsgroup using that alias.

NaN> How true that is it your view of the World.

What does your unsubstantiated claim about a nonexistent person's view
of the world have to do with Java or Lisp, murphy?

NaN> A "for Free" view I would add.

What does that have to do with Java or Lisp, murphy?

NaN> Your behavior, Paul, is beyond ludicrous in the mind of the informed
NaN> observer.

Who is "Paul", murphy? There is nobody in this newsgroup using that alias.

NaN> What it is in your head which directs your thinking
NaN> of the World out there owing you a stage littered with fools for you
NaN> to toy with at will is a total mystery, one I would wager even your
shrink
NaN> struggles with.

What does your ironic unsubstantiated allegation about Oopsiscame have
to do with Java or Lisp, murphy?

NaN> It is not the responsibility of anyone using Usenet to provide you
with a
NaN> free psycho analysis, hand feeding you a "cure".

What does your ironic unsubstantiated allegation about Oopsiscame have
to do with Java or Lisp, murphy?

NaN> This as not only is it that the lies you publish would cloud such a
NaN> diagnosis but the worth of professional assessment in a text only
NaN> environment is as of much value (real worth) as the opinions of one of
NaN> your holed socks!

What does your ironic unsubstantiated allegation about Oopsiscame have
to do with Java or Lisp, murphy? Your own "diagnosis" of Oopsiscame is,
by your own admission here, a baseless, scurrilous accusation, murphy.

What does your URL have to do with Java or Lisp, murphy?

NaN> It is very clear you have not grown beyond knowing your activity is
NaN> archived, is traceable, and is yours.

What does your unsubstantiated allegation about Oopsiscame have to do
with Java or Lisp, murphy?

NaN> "Retahiv Oopsiscame" <[email protected]>
NaN> is the name you used to argue with "(e-mail address removed)"

What does Oopsiscame's claimed past argument with (e-mail address removed)
have to do with Java or Lisp, murphy?

What does your URL have to do with Java or Lisp, murphy?

NaN> all the while leaping the thread with;

Non sequitur.

NaN> "Jerry Gerrone"

Who is "Jerry Gerrone", murphy? There is nobody in this newsgroup using
that alias.

NaN> "Lies, damned lies, and statistics" is most appropriate for you to
NaN> have some fun with.

What does your ironic unsubstantiated allegation about Oopsiscame have
to do with Java or Lisp, murphy?

NaN> Article =

What does your URL have to do with Java or Lisp, murphy?

NaN> Google Archive =

What does your URL have to do with Java or Lisp, murphy?

NaN> Parent Thread =

What does your URL have to do with Java or Lisp, murphy?

NaN> Today you believe it is "safe" to pop the name again, sad mad prat.

Who is "sad mad prat", murphy? There is nobody in this newsgroup using
that alias.

NaN> Whois "Retahiv Oopsiscame ' --->

What does your improperly-punctuated question have to do with Java or
Lisp, murphy?

What does your URL have to do with Java or Lisp, murphy?

NaN> I gather even you are capable of joining the dots, Derbysh!re?

Who is "Derbysh!re", murphy? There is nobody in this newsgroup using
that alias.

NaN> IP address: 76.64.158.18
NaN> Reverse DNS:
bas13-kitchener06-1279303186.dsl.bell.ca.
NaN> City: Toronto, Ontario

What does that have to do with Java or Lisp, murphy?

NaN> From: Retahiv Oopsiscame<[email protected]>
NaN> Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.programmer
NaN> Subject: Re: Style Police (a rant)
NaN> Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 09:48:40 -0700 (PDT)
NaN> Message-ID:
NaN> <19a1f215-7fa0-434e-a517-c260f600b495@l10g2000yqe.googlegroups.com>
NaN> NNTP-Posting-Host: 70.54.8.115

What does that have to do with Java or Lisp, murphy?

NaN> IP address: 70.54.8.115
NaN> Reverse DNS: bas1-ottawa10-1177946227.dsl.bell.ca.
NaN> City : Montreal, Quebec
NaN> Country : CA [Canada]

What does that have to do with Java or Lisp, murphy? And what does your
paranoid belief that people in such widely-separated locations as
Toronto, Montreal, and Chicago are part of some vast conspiracy against
you have to do with Java or Lisp, murphy?

NaN> Give this your best shot at maths, Paul, you're the expert;

Who is "Paul", murphy? There is nobody in this newsgroup using that alias.

What does your URL have to do with Java or Lisp, murphy?

NaN> Do build the audience a picture from how it is 32 months after
NaN> "Retahiv Oopsiscame" posts from your neighbourhood
NaN> in "chat" with your "Jerry Gerrone" sock, the identical ID is used to
NaN> again "chat" with you mimicking the performance you put out now as
NaN> "Cthun" -

Who is "Jerry Gerrone", murphy? There is nobody in this newsgroup using
that alias. And what does your illucid, paranoid prattle have to do with
Java or Lisp, murphy?

NaN> not at all dismissing you are using a SMTP DNS you are not permitted
NaN> to use -

What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to do
with Java or Lisp, murphy? Oopsiscame's email address seems to be
legitimate, murphy -- in particular, it does not bounce. Still suffering
from paranoia, murphy?

NaN> what is the logical possibility of such an event being sheer
NaN> coincidence, Paul?

Who is "Paul", murphy? There is nobody in this newsgroup using that alias.

NaN> Two entirely disconnected identities being addressed by the same
NaN> persona who, using the same argumentative approach
NaN> and the same "bait/switch" presentation fills the group with
NaN> rants of self-proclamation rants (airs and graces).

What do your rants have to do with Java or Lisp, murphy?

NaN> Give up the numbers, Paul.

Who is "Paul", murphy? There is nobody in this newsgroup using that alias.

NaN> Crunch them down.

What does your instruction have to do with Java or Lisp, murphy?

NaN> You got all night.. and no neighbors!

What does your unsubstantiated claim have to do with Java or Lisp, murphy?

What does your URL have to do with Java or Lisp, murphy?

NaN> "Retahiv Oopsiscame" goes on the list.

What does your Lits o' Haet have to do with Java or Lisp, murphy?

NaN> Attardi best come up with something new or that ID too
NaN> I add to "Murpohy's List".

What does your laughable threat to Attardi have to do with Java or Lisp,
murphy? I'm sure Attardi is quaking in his boots at the prospect of
being added to your joke of a list, murphy. After all, terrible things
happen to those on your list, murphy, like hangnails and bad hair days
and the same shit that happens to the rest of us!

"I had 'volunteered (years back) to support those who do endeavor
to provide free Free Usenet access, support those who offered
subscription based Free Usenet access, nothing more than
cooperation expected in return for what has been many
thousands of hours of work. I note most of those I joined with
are either deceased, severely disabled, or plain ole' MIA..
now it is my Time. ...

You just read my last. ...

For those who think they see me in future times I can only wish
you severe Tinnitus in your dreams. For those who know me
well (eMail, whatever) and see me, know I will be smiling also.
It is to you I say "adieu mein frenz and adios .. grazie' [hugs]
for all the Good Times! May you and yours always bear well
with all Life brings you".

/0ut"
--murphy

http://www.uffnet.com/kookkamp/goodbye.htm

And people wonder why I call them Famous Last Words.
 
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thoolen

On 27/09/2011 10:55 AM, Seth Tisue wrote:
1> Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.programmer,comp.lang.java.help,comp.lang.lisp

1> Jolly well done!

What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to do
with Java or Lisp, Tisue?

1> Well past time that Jave wannabe pest got his comeuppance.

Who is "that Jave wannabe pest", Tisue? There is nobody in this
newsgroup using that alias.
 
T

thoolen

On 27/09/2011 5:30 AM, "Jane Doe", an obvious murphy sock, wrote:
NaN> Newsgroups:
comp.lang.java.programmer,comp.lang.java.help,comp.lang.lisp

NaN> Derbysh!re (spazums) caused <[email protected]> to emulate
a bot
NaN> with:

What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to do
with Java or Lisp, murphy? Nobody is causing me to do anything and I am
not emulating a bot, murphy. And who is "Derbysh!re (spazums)", murphy?
There is nobody in this newsgroup using that alias.

NaN> You have a problem with my posts?

Most of the users of the newsgroups you are spamming probably have a
problem with your posts, murphy, as they are off-topic in all of them.

NaN> Why?

For the same reason as everybody else, murphy -- your flamebait, spam,
and trolling is off-topic in the newsgroups you're spamming.

NaN> Murphy proved very useful.

What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous self-aggrandizing
claim, posted via sock-puppet account, have to do with Java or Lisp,
murphy? You are in fact very useless, murphy. Your sum total
contribution to usenet consists almost wholly of off-topic posts,
murphy, and most of them are flame-bait that generate long chains of
off-topic followups, murphy. Usenet would be much better off without
you, murphy.

NaN> That body of work is the most comprehensive history of your
NaN> stupidity throughout Usenet I have witnessed in many a full
NaN> year.

What does your classic erroneous presupposition have to do with Java or
Lisp, murphy?

NaN> Read ^my^ history and weep - sonny, been around long before you
NaN> used foreskin as a pissball!

What does your unsubstantiated and self-aggrandizing claim have to do
with Java or Lisp, murphy?

What does your URL have to do with Java or Lisp, murphy?

NaN> Just what John takes any payola from your drivel is their problem.

Who is "John", murphy? There is nobody in this newsgroup using that
alias. And what does your ironic classic erroneous presupposition that I
post "drivel" have to do with Java or Lisp, murphy?

NaN> You will not see me evading filters as you do,

What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to do
with Java or Lisp, murphy? You have posted to this newsgroup using two
different socks in just the past few days, murphy -- "Jane Doe" and
"kaffel'latte". Since you claimed you were "retiring" from usenet
trolling, murphy, you have been morphing virtually every day, and only
rarely posting with the same nym more than a handful of times, but your
posts are instantly recognizable regardless, murphy. It's the smell --
the distinctive stench of "phlatArse". The burbling, semi-lucid,
off-topic droolings of a raving paranoid lunatic fixated on a
particular, imaginary person as his personal bogeyman, murphy.

NaN> nor will it matter a bean to me where filters direct.

What does the fact that people quickly killfile all of your new nyms
have to do with Java or Lisp, murphy?

NaN> I do not post crapola, all verified, all by your
NaN> own hand.

What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to do
with Java or Lisp, murphy? You post nothing but crapola, factually
erroneous paranoid ravings and off-topic flamebait of no redeeming value
to any of the newsgroups that you spam, murphy. And of course you add
spurious newsgroups to the distribution of your trolling followups,
murphy, something those you malign do not do. Indeed all of your various
flames and accusations tend towards the ironic, murphy.

NaN> You read my posts, there is plenty of purpose,

What does your antisocial and newsgroup-charter-violating purpose have
to do with Java or Lisp, murphy?

NaN> watching you spin and foam..

What does your classic erroneous presupposition have to do with Java or
Lisp, murphy?

NaN> as Murphy said, "Sunshine"! LOL

What does what you said under another 'nym have to do with Java or Lisp,
murphy?

NaN> Binning your lame redirect and reinstalling the information line.

What does your classic erroneous presupposition have to do with Java or
Lisp, murphy?

NaN> Stuff you do not want made public goes here..

What does your classic erroneous presupposition have to do with Java or
Lisp, murphy?

NaN> Derbysh!re on Facebook.

Who is "Derbysh!re", murphy? There is nobody in this newsgroup using
that alias.

What does your URL have to do with Java or Lisp, murphy?

NaN> %Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality

What does that have to do with Java or Lisp, murphy?

NaN> Derbysh!re the 'Shroom Boy.

Who is "Derbysh!re the 'Shroom Boy", murphy? There is nobody in this
newsgroup using that alias.

What does your URL have to do with Java or Lisp, murphy?

NaN> %I can’t buy anything online. No credit card, and Canadian debit
cards can’t
NaN> %be used in lieu of them for e-commerce.
NaN> %(As for why no credit card, well, frankly, my finances, and my
reasons for my
NaN> %financial decisions, are none of your damn beeswax. No offense. :))

What does that have to do with Java or Lisp, murphy? Besides, weren't
you in Australia, murphy?

NaN> Derbysh!re the L00N.

Who is "Derbysh!re the L00N", murphy? There is nobody in this newsgroup
using that alias.

What does your URL have to do with Java or Lisp, murphy?

NaN> %I've known about these problems of his for three years, and they seem
NaN> %to be worsening rather than improving.

What do your problems have to do with Java or Lisp, murphy?

NaN> I ask again, what is going on %with his parents?

What does your question about an unspecified person have to do with Java
or Lisp, murphy?

NaN> Presumably he's still living with them; are they %unable to get
NaN> their son some help?

What does your unsubstantiated allegation about an unspecified person
have to do with Java or Lisp, murphy?

NaN> Derbysh!re the Wannabe.

Who is "Derbysh!re the Wannabe", murphy? There is nobody in this
newsgroup using that alias.

What does your URL have to do with Java or Lisp, murphy?

NaN> %Campus security backup arrives, as to the "real cops". They
mention to
NaN> %Paul that he's going "downtown" where he will be their guest for
"a long
NaN> %time".

Who is "Paul", murphy? There is nobody in this newsgroup using that
alias. And what does your unsubstantiated allegation about him have to
do with Java or Lisp, murphy?

NaN> As he is being dragged out of the building, Paul is screaming
NaN> %"What do you mean 'a long time'? I have things to do tonight!"

Who is "Paul", murphy? There is nobody in this newsgroup using that
alias. And what does your unsubstantiated allegation about him have to
do with Java or Lisp, murphy?

NaN> %ed: I hear Paul is now the proud owner of a "No Trespass" restraining
NaN> %order to keep him from the premises of Carleton University.

Who is "Paul", murphy? There is nobody in this newsgroup using that
alias. And what does your unsubstantiated allegation about him have to
do with Java or Lisp, murphy?

NaN> Derbysh!re the Thespian.

Who is "Derbysh!re the Thespian", murphy? There is nobody in this
newsgroup using that alias.

What does your URL have to do with Java or Lisp, murphy?

NaN> %Paul "Harold Yarmouth" Derbysh!re fancies
NaN> %himself as a "computer expert" - his words.

Who is "Paul Harold Yarmouth Derbysh!re", murphy? There is nobody in
this newsgroup using that alias.

NaN> %To him the rest of us mortals are blindingly
NaN> %stupid playthings of his.

What does your unsubstantiated allegation about a nonexistent user have
to do with Java or Lisp, murphy?

NaN> Call me %nuts for taking objection to the tag.

What does your objection have to do with Java or Lisp, murphy?

NaN> %Paul being "expert":

Who is "Paul", murphy? There is nobody in this newsgroup using that alias.

What does your URL have to do with Java or Lisp, murphy?

NaN> %HP PS/2 mouse on XP Media Center Edition acting up. The mouse "sticks"
NaN> %sometimes at certain horizontal or vertical positions and has to be
NaN> %picked up and shaken.

What do your mouse problems have to do with Java or Lisp, murphy? It's
clearly a hardware problem, murphy, but the newsgroups you crossposted
this to are all software newsgroups. Still suffering from relevance
problems, murphy?

"I had 'volunteered (years back) to support those who do endeavor
to provide free Free Usenet access, support those who offered
subscription based Free Usenet access, nothing more than
cooperation expected in return for what has been many
thousands of hours of work. I note most of those I joined with
are either deceased, severely disabled, or plain ole' MIA..
now it is my Time. ...

You just read my last. ...

For those who think they see me in future times I can only wish
you severe Tinnitus in your dreams. For those who know me
well (eMail, whatever) and see me, know I will be smiling also.
It is to you I say "adieu mein frenz and adios .. grazie' [hugs]
for all the Good Times! May you and yours always bear well
with all Life brings you".

/0ut"
--murphy

http://www.uffnet.com/kookkamp/goodbye.htm

And people wonder why I call them Famous Last Words.

P.S. You forgot to include a copy of your famous paranoid "Lits 'o Haet"
in your post, murphy. Still suffering from memory problems, murphy?
 
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thoolen

On 27/09/2011 10:57 AM, Seth Tisue wrote:
2> Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.programmer

2> %Do not forget the LIST%

What does your directive to murphy have to do with Java, Tisue?

2> Murphy's List:

What does murphy's Lits o' Haet have to do with Java, Tisue?
 
K

Kaz Kylheku

Neither have you, it seems. And who's idiot enough to use his real
name on the internet?

For starters, any serious professional in the computing field, who
remembers the good old net prior to September 1993.
 
A

Arne Vajhøj

Neither have you, it seems. And who's idiot enough to use his real
name on the internet?

Most people that behave in way they do not feel ashamed of.
Who the hell are you talking about? There's nobody here by that name.

Sure is.

Arne
 
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Retahiv Oopsiscame

On 16/09/2011 6:26 AM, Retahiv Oopsiscame wrote:
[calls me a liar]
No! None of the nasty things that you have said or implied about me
are at all true.
What?? Where did I call you a liar?
Two posts ago.

[calls me a liar]

No, no, a thousand times no! None of the nasty things that you have
said or implied about me are at all true.
All programming languages and libraries have "complexity to learn".

Some more than others.
Fortunately, standard library macros don't tend to be terrible like that
-- at least for open source implementations.

Need I remind you once again of your own bugabear, the LOOP macro?
Call semantics for functions are well defined -- argument evaluation,
etc. Those for macros are pretty much arbitrary -- whatever the macro
author intended. (Or didn't, but caused anyway.)

[insult deleted].

No. None of the nasty things that you have said or implied about me
are at all true.
What a function's results are is just as arbitrary, but we accept functions.

The behavior with respect to argument evaluation isn't arbitrary. And
functions don't potentially behave differently if one of the arguments
contains an expression with a variable with one name, versus a
semantically equivalent expression with another name.

For example, in Java if I have

int x = 3;
int y = someObj.someMeth(x);

and change it to

int z = 3;
int y = someObj.someMeth(z);

the semantics doesn't change. But if someMeth was replaced with
someLispMacro, that might no longer be the case if the macro has
internal local variables named x or z.

To make it even more concrete, suppose someMeth is a static method of
SomeClass rather than an instance method of someObj and it's

public static void someMeth (int a) {
int z = 18;
return z*a;
}

(trivial, yes, and no real need for the local, but just for argument's
sake).

This will work fine with the second call above (if someObj is of
SomeClass): you'll get 54 returned.

But what happens if it's made into a macro instead, which inlines the
above code? Then it performs substitution rather than passing
arguments in a function-calling manner and ends up as

int z = 18;
return z*x;

or

int z = 18;
return z*z;

and we get 54 with the first call above but 324 instead with the
second one!

Again, you may have some klunky method to namespace the local z here
to make name collisions like this less likely, but accidents can and
will happen and the resulting bugs will be exceptionally difficult to
track down because a widespread programmer expectation is violated.
Indeed who will think to see if changing the *name* of a variable in
the calling procedure will magically fix it?
What about one without fuel injection?

Macros are hardly like fuel injection.
Something familiar in how you write. You remind me of someone I had a
very long argument with here, long ago. Appropriately, his name was
"Bent".
[implied insult deleted]
No. None of the nasty things that you have said or implied about me
are at all true.

WTF??

You heard me. I said none of the nasty things that you have said or
implied about me are at all true.
I finished school a while ago. Go **** yourself.

Okay. [implied insult deleted]

None of the nasty things that you have said or implied about me are at
all true.
 
R

Retahiv Oopsiscame

D********* ([insult deleted]) caused <[email protected]> to wish:

Don't be ridiculous. I am my own person. Nobody caused me to anything.
Plenty of "normal" Usenet posters do this daily, right here in cjlp also.

Well, since most people are idiots, that just helps to prove my point.
You did too, once.

Yes, for a while I did post as Jerry Gerrone. Fat lot of good it did
me.
Thinking one and all would fall for that display of [insult deleted] of the event

None of the nasty things that you have said or implied about me are at
all true.
has become the rope that hangs you, Paul.

My name is not Paul, and you have no authority whatsoever to be
"hanging" anybody, anonyshit.

What the **** is that? Do you really think I'm dumb enough to click on
a link posted by a nutbag with clearly hostile motives and that leads
to a site I've never heard of? It's probably chock full of viruses or
something.
Proving (to you) one cannot TROLL Usenet using their own name.

So, naturally, you troll usenet as "Jane Doe" instead -- whoever you
are.
Only full blown [insult deleted] try it.

Fascinating. But since I don't troll, not relevant to me, and since
you're safely behind your cowardly shield of anonymity, not relevant
to you either.
The very same [insult deleted] use Google Groups "hiding". LOL

Says the one who is hiding not only their name, but their IP as well.
Afraid of cyber-retribution, troll?
Same DNS as Paul G D********* of Bennet St, Pembroke.

I have no idea who that is.
How strange is that ?

You are exceedingly strange. You should probably go see a shrink.
Who the hell are you talking about? There's nobody here by that name.

Not in posting ID, sure, but you sure live and breathe, Paul[..]albeit with
the aid of a freebie Shrink and a host of stabilising freebie drugs!

My name isn't Paul and the only one who needs a shrink around here is
you.
Oh do .. tale your classic erroneous presuppositions

I have none, d-bag.
and build yourself a dream.

Even if it involves you developing a flatline EEG?

Then again, judging from the meaningless offtopic drivel that fills
all your posts to cljp to date, perhaps you already have one.
Definitely. Wholly FLOWN (flag) stamped, signed, delivered by registered post.

So, you admit it. Now will you **** off and let we in cljp get on with
discussing Java?
And? You are going to do what about that, D********* Troll.

Who the **** is that? Since you just admitted to being a troll, I
suppose that would be you. So why are you talking to yourself, troll?
Whomever the **** that poster is you best get some proof before some k00k(one
of your other names) threatens suit for defamation! LOL

The "other names" are to get around bugs and wonkiness with google
groups, no more. I make no secret of their being me -- nebulous,
bbound, and so forth.

You, on the other hand, smell like a sock puppeteer to me. I'm
guessing you're kaffel'latte and probably others too, and probably a
cljp regular who wants to start a fresh flamewar but doesn't want any
of the resulting mud to stick to his main posting identity here. Arne?
Nah, your style's different from his trademarked "nasty, brutish, and
short". And you're not as literate and cussword-averse as Lew.
Attardi, perhaps? Or maybe Lars-hole, or even Wildemar back from the
cyber-dead. Crudity was certainly commonplace enough in *his* posts.
Attardi hasn't been here five minutes.

Attardi has been in this group on and off for years, and has a history
of provoking flamewars.
You are quick to judge or recognise yourself easily LOL

Now you're just not making sense. Oh, wait, you never HAVE made sense
since you started posting here a couple weeks ago ... with this
particular sock.

What the **** is the relevance of that?
oh cute. Not. Denial. Paul?

Who the hell is Paul?
From your record - all traceable to YOU.

The paranoia you are exhibiting here is staggering. You think ALL the
cljp regulars are sockpuppets of mine?! You're out of your fucking
gourd is what you are.
Murphy's List:

I don't know who most of those are and I couldn't care less. Why are
you trying to drag me into your feuds with other people, particularly
(it seems) thoolen?
Retahiv Oopsiscame <[email protected]>

That one's me.
(e-mail address removed)

And that one.

I don't know anything about the other 71 names on your list. If that's
a list of your enemies, might I suggest that you've bitten off way,
way more than you can chew? If even five of them fight back you're
pretty much toast, or if a single one of them knows a lot about
computer hacking and doesn't have saintly levels of self-restraint.

Regardless, making a huge and diverse list of people you allege are
conspiring against you is a sure sign of clinical paranoia. Seek help.
And you are again chatting to yourself, likely.

Pot, kettle ...
See how easy it is to [implied insult deleted]. [implied insult deleted]

None of the nasty things that you have said or implied about me are at
all true.
All are "whacko" except you, Paul.

My name is Jerry.
How true that is it your view of the World.

No, my view of the world is that most people are idiots, and that view
is vindicated on a daily basis in my interactions with everyone from
customers to business partners to tech support to usenetters,
including, and especially, you. And further vindicated by just about
every news headline, particularly if it falls under the category of
"crime" or that of "politics". And further vindicated by television --
wall to wall reality-TV bullshit these days. And further vindicated by
radio -- wall to wall right-wing talk bullshit these days. The rare
smart person I run into stands out, like a diamond in a sack of coal.
And you're not one of them.
A "for Free" view I would add.

???

Now you're back to pure non sequiturs.

[lots of garbled cruft consisting largely of punctuation characters
deleted]
Your behavior, Paul, is beyond ludicrous in the mind of the informed
observer.

Who are you talking to? There's nobody here by that name.
Hallucinating now, psycho?
What it is in your head which directs your thinking
of the World out there owing you a stage littered with fools for you
to toy with at will is a total mystery, one I would wager even your shrink
struggles with.

Projecting much? You sure seem to think Usenet is your own private
performance stage. Let's tick off the boxes, shall we?

[x] You post to newsgroups where your rants are off-topic and
inappropriate.
[x] You post your own personal wacko beliefs and ravings, as if they
were fact.
[x] You post your own personal wacko beliefs and ravings, as if anyone
else much cared.
[x] You seem to be insistent upon trying to have the last word.
[x] You think you're the one sane one and everyone else is wrong/mad.
[x] You project all of these things onto everyone else you come into
contact with.
[x] You have even admitted to being a troll, using the exact word
"troll".
It is not the responsibility of anyone using Usenet to provide you with a
free psycho analysis, hand feeding you a "cure".

Fortunately, unlike you I have no need of one, since unlike you I have
no psychological issues to work out.
This as not only is it that the lies you publish would [implied insult deleted]
professional assessment in a text only environment is as of much value
(real worth) as the opinions of one of your [implied insult deleted]

No, you're the psycho.

None of the nasty things that you have said or implied about me are at
all true.
It is very clear you [insult deleted][threat deleted]

No, you're the juvenile delinquent.

None of the nasty things that you have said or implied about me are at
all true.

I don't respond well to threats.
"Retahiv Oopsiscame" <[email protected]>
is the name you used to argue with "(e-mail address removed)"
So?

What?

all the while leaping the thread with;
What?

"Jerry Gerrone" [http://al.howardknight.net/msgid.cgi?ID=131613873900]
What?

[calls me a liar]

No, you're the liar.

None of the nasty things that you have said or implied about me are at
all true.

What is the relevance of any of that?
Today you believe it is "safe" to pop the name again, [insult deleted].

No, you're the crazy one.

None of the nasty things that you have said or implied about me are at
all true.
Whois "Retahiv Oopsiscame ' --->[insult deleted]

No, you're the troll (by your own admission).

None of the nasty things that you have said or implied about me are at
all true.
[implied insult deleted], D*********?

I have no idea who you're addressing that to.
IP address:                     76.64.158.18
Reverse DNS:                    bas13-kitchener06-1279303186.dsl.bell.ca.
City:      Toronto, Ontario

What is the relevance of this? So, I'm from Toronto. So what?
IP address:                     70.54.8.115
Reverse DNS:                    bas1-ottawa10-1177946227.dsl.bell.ca.
City :      Montreal, Quebec
Country :   CA [Canada]

This is even less relevant. Who's posting here from Montreal?
Give this your best shot at maths, Paul, you're the expert;

Who the **** is Paul? Is it you, perhaps?
Do build the audience a picture from how it is 32 months after
"Retahiv Oopsiscame" posts from your neighbourhood
in "chat" with your "Jerry Gerrone" sock,

The reason for my multiple Google Groups accounts was well-documented,
and if, as I suspect, you are a sock of a veteran of past flamewars
here, you were surely there. So, have you developed Alzheimer's or
something?
the identical ID is used to again "chat" with you mimicking the
performance you put out now as "Cthun"

You really are insane. Cthun is the freaking *enemy* in case you
hadn't noticed, one of those pro-Lisp wackos. His kind have invaded
before, causing chaos and flamewars. Did you not notice that we are on
OPPOSITE SIDES?! Geez, and you're the one calling other people mad?
not at all dismissing you are [false accusation deleted]

Ex-fucking-SCUSE me? My gmail address is quite genuine -- in fact, it
is not possible to post via Google Groups with a fake one at all, let
alone forge someone else's!

So, once again, none of the nasty things that you have said or implied
about me are at all true.
what is the logical possibility of such an event being sheer
coincidence, Paul?

Talking to yourself again, Paul?
Two entirely disconnected identities being addressed by the same
persona who, using the same argumentative approach
and the same "bait/switch" presentation fills the group with
rants of self-proclamation rants (airs and graces).

Those would be "Jane Doe" and "kaffel'latte", I presume -- the same
persona, using the same argumentative approach, posting irrelevant
things to threads that were originally about other stuff, and filling
the group with rants.
Give up the numbers, Paul.

Why are you making rudely-phrased demands of yourself, Paul?
Crunch them down.

Why are you making rudely-phrased demands of yourself, Paul?
You got all night.. and no neighbors!http://i51.tinypic.com/28us11y.jpo

I have no idea what the **** you're talking about. It's the middle of
the morning and I have several neighbors. You're fucking crazy is what
you are. Hallucinating. Out of your gourd.
"Retahiv Oopsiscame" goes on the list.

Ooooh! I'm positively quaking in my boots! Go ahead. Put me on "the
list". That'll set me straight!
Attardi best come up with something new or that ID too
I add to  "Murpohy's List".

Ooooh! More threats, this time directed at one of your own fucking
side.

See, kids? This is why the good guys always win -- because the bad
guys can't resist eventually stabbing one another in the back. Look,
Wildemar (or whoever this twit is) just threatened one of his own top
lieutenants with being put on "the list"! The "you have failed me for
the last time!" speech and telekinetic choke surely can't be too far
behind. ;)
 
R

Retahiv Oopsiscame

For starters, any serious professional in the computing field, who
remembers the good old net prior to September 1993.

Well, nobody could have anticipated back then that the net would get
flooded with retards like "Jane Doe" and crazed stalkers and suchlike.
 
R

Retahiv Oopsiscame

Most people that behave in way they do not feel ashamed of.

In case you'd forgotten, there's the minor little matter of crazed
stalkers. It's impossible to please 100% of the people 100% of the
time and on the net it's damned easy for one of the few disgruntled
ones to happen to be a complete fucking psycho.

I don't see any. Unless you mean that "Jane Doe" freak.
 
L

Lew

Would you two lovebirds get a room, please? This is not the forum for yourlovemaking.

Just send to each other's email and leave the rest of us out of it, please.I beg you. Don't use a public forum for your private conversation.

Please.

I beg you.

Please.
 
C

Cthun

Would you two lovebirds get a room, please? This is not the forum for your lovemaking.

What does your classic erroneous presupposition have to do with Java, Lew?
 
A

Arne Vajhøj

In case you'd forgotten, there's the minor little matter of crazed
stalkers. It's impossible to please 100% of the people 100% of the
time and on the net it's damned easy for one of the few disgruntled
ones to happen to be a complete fucking psycho.


I don't see any. Unless you mean that "Jane Doe" freak.

Try the mirror.

Arne
 
C

Cthun

That first day of 0ctober 2011 saw Paul G D3rbyshire gown gaping as
"(e-mail address removed)" and dill bound did palter at his alter in:
Message-ID:
On Sep 30, 9:26pm, Arne Vajhoej <[email protected]> wrote:
NoNo7ME>> On 9/26/2011 6:17 PM, Retahiv Oopsiscame wrote:
NoNo7ME>>
NoNo7ME>>>>> None of the nasty things that you have said or implied about me are at
NoNo7ME>>>>> all true.
NoNo7ME>>
NoNo7ME>>>> Holy cow! This guy hasn't changed one bit (except a new fake name, I
NoNo7ME>>>> see).
NoNo7ME>>
NoNo7ME>>> Neither have you, it seems. And who's idiot enough to use his real
NoNo7ME>>> name on the internet?
NoNo7ME>>
NoNo7ME>> Most people that behave in way they do not feel ashamed of.
NoNo7ME>
NoNo7ME>In case you'd forgotten, there's the minor little matter of crazed
NoNo7ME>stalkers. It's impossible to please 100% of the people 100% of the
NoNo7ME>time and on the net it's damned easy for one of the few disgruntled
NoNo7ME>ones to happen to be a complete fucking psycho.




Cross posted to alt.usenet.kooks that you may be among your own, Paul.
Followup-To set to alt.usenet.kooks that you may remain there.




NoNo7ME>
NoNo7ME>>> Who the hell are you talking about? There's nobody here by that name.
NoNo7ME>>
NoNo7ME>> Sure is.
NoNo7ME>I don't see any. Unless you mean that "Jane Doe" freak.



Again, D3rbyshire the Dill, your feigned knowledge on Java is as
transparent as your non-existent knowledge on news article headers.

Well known is this series of posts, the cloak removed by Arne, one
who has you lime green with envy.




++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 22:52:33 -0500
From: Arne Vajhøj <[email protected]>
Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.programmer
Message-ID: <[email protected]>

Credibility: zero

Internet usage skills: zero

--------------------------------------------------------------
Arne's comments refer to the not so smart attempted "con" D3rbyshire
pulled on <cljp> and <cll> for some months in 2008. The 'thread' then
generated by D3rbyshire I include excerpts of, below.
The full thread is here:
http://preview.tinyurl.com/D3rbyshire0utsHimself
http://groups.google.com/group/comp...d/thread/d7d67d116bd9c2e8/90b1ba4e63328fc4?q=
--------------------------------------------------------------


(e-mail address removed)
74.14.135.55
16 Nov 2008
Oh, for Christ's sake.
I've known about this nonsense for a while but I ignored it until now.
Now I've decided it's gotten out of hand.
I am probably the Paul D3rbyshire everyone here keeps talking about,

(e-mail address removed)
74.14.135.55
17 Nov 2008
* I'm not the one talking to imaginary friends in public, and then
having a public falling-out with one of them!

(e-mail address removed)
74.14.135.55
17 Nov 2008
So, he really DOES exist.

IP : 74.14.135.55 Neighborhood
Host : bas1-ottawa10-1242466103.dsl.bell.ca OK
Country : Canada

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++





Telling folks you are not you, pumping whole threads with your
puppets, is what earned you your KOTM and TInf0il Sombrero
"tar and feather" double act, D3rbyshire the Dill.
Your "porkie pies" around Usenet are now legendary but let
us look at one effort you make to impress weBLog users at your
favorite site, one you visit and post to daily.

Here is an excerpt from just one recent rant. A rant delivered after
your being exposed on that site, it seems. This is a very familiar
reaction of yours, well documented, but let's get on and deliver
the Lie, Paul.

http://mushroomobserver.org/comment/show_comment?_js=on&_new=true&id=38444&q=6zKJ
"I don’t agree that I’ve done anything to invite reprehensible
responses. (And as for the Usenet community, I haven’t
touched Usenet in years too much heat and too little
light for my tastes.


Now do froth on with me being you being not Paul being you when
I am being you and am definitely not Paul who is you.
 
T

thoolen

On 01/10/2011 4:26 PM, murphy wrote:
NaN> Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.programmer,alt.usenet.kooks

NaN> That first day of 0ctober 2011 saw Paul G D3rbyshire gown gaping

Who is "Paul G D3rbyshire", murphy? There is nobody in this newsgroup
using that alias.

NaN> as "(e-mail address removed)" and dill bound did palter at his alter in:

Non sequitur.

NaN> Cross posted to alt.usenet.kooks that you may be among your own, Paul.

Who is "Paul", murphy? There is nobody in this newsgroup using that alias.

NaN> Followup-To set to alt.usenet.kooks that you may remain there.

What does your belonging with kooks have to do with Java, murphy?

NaN> Again, D3rbyshire the Dill, your feigned knowledge on Java is as
NaN> transparent as your non-existent knowledge on news article headers.

Who is "D3rbyshire the Dill", murphy? There is nobody in this newsgroup
using that alias.

NaN> Well known is this series of posts, the cloak removed by Arne, one
NaN> who has you lime green with envy.

What does your hallucination have to do with Java, murphy?

NaN> Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 22:52:33 -0500
NaN> From: Arne Vajhøj <[email protected]>
NaN> Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.programmer
NaN> Message-ID: <[email protected]>

What do Arne's post headers have to do with Usenet kooks, murphy?

NaN> Credibility: zero

What does your lack of credibility have to do with Java, murphy?

NaN> Internet usage skills: zero

What does your lack of Internet usage skills have to do with Java, murphy?

NaN> Arne's comments refer to the not so smart attempted "con" D3rbyshire
NaN> pulled on <cljp> and <cll> for some months in 2008.

Who is "D3rbyshire", murphy? There is nobody in this newsgroup using
that alias.

NaN> The 'thread' then generated by D3rbyshire I include excerpts of, below.

Who is "D3rbyshire", murphy? There is nobody in this newsgroup using
that alias.

NaN> The full thread is here:

What do your URLs have to do with Java, murphy?

What does your email address have to do with Java, murphy?

What does your IP address have to do with Java, murphy?

NaN> 16 Nov 2008

What does that have to do with Java, murphy?

NaN> Oh, for Christ's sake. I've known about this nonsense for a while
but I
NaN> ignored it until now.

What does your nonsense have to do with Java, murphy?

NaN> Now I've decided it's gotten out of hand.

What does your decision have to do with Java, murphy?

NaN> I am probably the Paul D3rbyshire everyone here keeps talking about,

What does your admission have to do with Java, murphy? Or I suppose I
should now say, what does your admission have to do with Java, D3rbyshire?

What does your email address have to do with Java, murphy?

What does your IP address have to do with Java, murphy?

NaN> 17 Nov 2008

What does that have to do with Java, murphy?

NaN> * I'm not the one talking to imaginary friends in public, and then
NaN> having a public falling-out with one of them!

What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to do
with Java, murphy? For three months now almost the only thing you've
done on Usenet has been to have a falling out with one of your imaginary
friends, murphy.

What does your email address have to do with Java, murphy?

What does your IP address have to do with Java, murphy?

NaN> 17 Nov 2008

What does that have to do with Java, murphy?

NaN> So, he really DOES exist.

Classic ambiguity.

What does your IP address have to do with Java, murphy?

NaN> Neighborhood

What does that have to do with Java, murphy?

NaN> Host : bas1-ottawa10-1242466103.dsl.bell.ca OK
NaN> Country : Canada

What does that have to do with Java, murphy?

NaN> Telling folks you are not you, pumping whole threads with your
puppets,
NaN> is what earned you your KOTM and TInf0il Sombrero "tar and feather"
NaN> double act, D3rbyshire the Dill.

Who is "D3rbyshire the Dill", murphy? There is nobody in this newsgroup
using that alias. And what does your pumping whole threads with your
puppets have to do with Java, murphy?

NaN> Your "porkie pies" around Usenet are now legendary

What does your classic erroneous presupposition have to do with Java,
murphy? Oopsiscame has done nothing of the sort, and indeed the act you
are implying is physically impossible, murphy.

NaN> but let us look at one effort you make to impress weBLog
NaN> users at your favorite site, one you visit and post to daily.

What does your suggestion to Oopsiscame have to do with Java, murphy?

NaN> Here is an excerpt from just one recent rant.

What does any of your recent ranting have to do with Java, murphy?

NaN> A rant delivered after your being exposed on that site, it seems.

What does your unsubstantiated allegation towards Oopsiscame have to do
with Java, murphy?

NaN> This is a very familiar reaction of yours, well documented, but
NaN> let's get on and deliver the Lie, Paul.

Who is "Paul", murphy? There is nobody in this newsgroup using that alias.

What does your URL have to do with Java, murphy?

NaN> "I don’t agree that I’ve done anything to invite reprehensible
NaN> responses.

What does your disagreement have to do with Java, murphy? Everything you
post to usenet is reprehensible, murphy. Perhaps you should make good
now on your promise to retire from usenet, murphy.

NaN> (And as for the Usenet community, I haven’t touched Usenet in
NaN> years too much heat and too little light for my tastes.

What does your ludicrous, classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim
have to do with Java, murphy? Particularly ironic that you'd make that
claim in a Usenet post, murphy.

NaN> Now do froth on with me being you being not Paul being you when I am
NaN> being you and am definitely not Paul who is you.

Who is "Paul", murphy? There is nobody in this newsgroup using that alias.

"I had 'volunteered (years back) to support those who do endeavor
to provide free Free Usenet access, support those who offered
subscription based Free Usenet access, nothing more than
cooperation expected in return for what has been many
thousands of hours of work. I note most of those I joined with
are either deceased, severely disabled, or plain ole' MIA..
now it is my Time. ...

You just read my last. ...

For those who think they see me in future times I can only wish
you severe Tinnitus in your dreams. For those who know me
well (eMail, whatever) and see me, know I will be smiling also.
It is to you I say "adieu mein frenz and adios .. grazie' [hugs]
for all the Good Times! May you and yours always bear well
with all Life brings you".

/0ut"
--murphy

http://www.uffnet.com/kookkamp/goodbye.htm

And people wonder why I call them Famous Last Words.

P.S. You forgot to include a copy of your famous paranoid "Lits 'o Haet"
in your post, murphy. Still suffering from memory problems, murphy?
 

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