Title bar question

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George W

Newbie question here ...

I'm putting together my first Website with frames using FrontPage. No
matter which page I navigate to on the Website, the title bar always
displays the title that belongs to file index.htm. How do I make the title
bar display the title of the current main page? The site is

www.stargazerrestaurant.com

Thanks
George
 
L

lime

"George W" wrote in message ...
Newbie question here ...

I'm putting together my first Website with frames using FrontPage. No
matter which page I navigate to on the Website, the title bar always
displays the title that belongs to file index.htm. How do I make the
title
bar display the title of the current main page?

By not using frames.
 
M

Mark Parnell

Previously in alt.html said:
Newbie question here ...

Ooh, mum a newbie! Can I keep him?
I'm putting together my first Website with frames
Eek!

using FrontPage.
Nooooo!

No
matter which page I navigate to on the Website, the title bar always
displays the title that belongs to file index.htm.

Welcome to the said:
How do I make the title
bar display the title of the current main page?

Get rid of the frames.

http://www.htmlhelp.com/design/frames/whatswrong.html
http://html-faq.com/htmlframes/?framesareevil
http://dorward.me.uk/www/frames/
http://www.google.com/webmasters/2.html (see under "Your page uses
frames")
http://www.markparnell.com.au/articles/frames.php

You mean http://www.sattel.com/stargazerasianbuffet/ ?
 
R

rf

George W
Newbie question here ...

I'm putting together my first Website with frames

Do not use frames.
<history>
Frames were invented by netscape sometime last century. They immediately
re-wrote their site using frames.

Six months later they re-wrote their site again, *without* using frames.
They have never used frames since, because of all the problems associated
with them.
using FrontPage.

Now that is even worse.
No
matter which page I navigate to on the Website, the title bar always
displays the title that belongs to file index.htm. How do I make the title
bar display the title of the current main page? The site is

Abandon the frames.
 
R

Richard

George said:
Newbie question here ...
I'm putting together my first Website with frames using FrontPage. No
matter which page I navigate to on the Website, the title bar always
displays the title that belongs to file index.htm. How do I make the
title bar display the title of the current main page? The site is

Thanks


In case you haven't figured it out yet:
Front Page sucks!
Front page with frames sucks even worse!

Learn CSS. It's easy, painless and functional.
 
D

DaKitty

Mark Parnell said:
Ooh, mum a newbie! Can I keep him?

*giggle*
I thought you were going to adopt me! :(
*whimper*

;)
Get rid of the frames.

I thought you were going to tell him get rid of Front Page.

I'd tell him to get a graphics designer too.
(I'm better at that than coding)
 
R

Richard

George said:
Looks like I did a lot of work for nuthin' ..... :eek:)

As Thomas Edison once said, "No I have not failed. I just found 10,000 ways
that did not work.".
 
H

Henry

George said:
Looks like I did a lot of work for nuthin' ..... :eek:)

Not really.

If you think you have done a lot of work, try learn css!

You have done great draft for your web page. That is great!

Now you will have to decide what will work for you.

If you want to have that page done properly, you will have spend several
good months to learn how to do it properly and do it properly yourself.

Than you will know how to make web pages right way and you will become

or... hire someone to do it for you.


If you that restaurant owner, maybe you need extra hobby.

It's very simple page and you have done the most work, so someone who
knows what is doing will have to spend 8 hours work to clean up that mess.

So, you will need to pay for about 8-10 hours of work.

Don't worry about some comments you got from other guys.

They are nuts, have nothing better to do in life and they are so happy
if someone has not idea how to do it right way so they can have some fun.

Sad....


Cheers...
 
O

orljustin

Hey,

Aside from the frame issue, that is a pretty badly designed site, as
far as colors, fonts...well, everything. You may want to outsource it,
or learn some more.

oj
 
K

Karl Core

Hey,

Aside from the frame issue, that is a pretty badly designed site, as
far as colors, fonts...well, everything. You may want to outsource it,
or learn some more.

You may want to learn how to quote so people know who/ what the **** you're
referring to.
 
J

jake

George W said:
Newbie question here ...

I'm putting together my first Website with frames using FrontPage. No
matter which page I navigate to on the Website, the title bar always
displays the title that belongs to file index.htm. How do I make the title
bar display the title of the current main page? The site is

www.stargazerrestaurant.com

Thanks
George
Congratulations on producing your first Web site -- it gets easier from
now on ;-)

Just a couple of points in passing:

(a) Some of the pages take a long time to load. This is because of the
file size of the images used on the pages. Try using a simple graphics
package to 'compress' the images further.

I carried out a little test, and reduced thumbnails from 45k down to 7k,
and main images from 214k down to 69k without any significant loss of
quality.

Users (and potential customers) on dial-up will thank you if you can
reduce the 300k page sizes ;-)

(b) The use of frames in this context is quite OK (even if they're not
really necessary).

However, you need to make one or two changes:

(i) Any users who cannot handle frames and come to your site will get a
message that says: "This page uses frames, but your browser doesn't
support them.".

In reality, there are probably few visitors to your site that will not
be able to handle frames -- but for the sake of 'good practice' you
should make the site accessible to them (and help search engines index
your site properly).

You should create a page which is a combination of your index frame and
top frame contents, and point the <noframes></noframes> to this.

e.g. something like:
<p>This page uses frames, but your browser doesn't support them -- so <
a href="newentry.htm" title="link to index page">please go here</a></p>

That means that your frames-deficient user can access all your pages via
this link page.

However, with your current design, most of your pages already carry an
index, and so they should be able to navigate your site without problems
once they get to a page. Just ensure that the links are on *each* page
(including main), and that the list of links is complete (including
'contact').

(ii) People using search engines may well be directed to individual
pages, but the site will still be navigable if (as above) you ensure
that each page has an index.

Needless to say, they won't see the content of the top frame unless you
incorporate this on the pages (or point them back to the frameset page)
-- but if you do, then you don't need the top frame ;-)

So. You're then down to a 2-frame site.

Eventually you can incorporate the 'graphics' version of the index onto
each page, at which point you don't need to use frames at all.

(c) lastly (for the time being):
Put some alternative text on *every single image on your site*. The text
should make sense to anyone viewing your site without graphics (but it
can also be "" if the image is purely page decoration).

There's lots more to do, but sort out the basics first.

regards.
 
J

Jan Faerber

George said:
Newbie question here ...

I'm putting together my first Website with frames using FrontPage. No
matter which page I navigate to on the Website, the title bar always
displays the title that belongs to file index.htm. How do I make the
title
bar display the title of the current main page? The site is

www.stargazerrestaurant.com

Thanks
George

The applet takes long time for loading.
Use an animated gif for less sophisticated effects.

http://html.janfaerber.com/frames/images/animated.gif

Quite interesting to do it with Gimp.
 
J

Jan Faerber

Use different index(n° X).html files for each said:
The applet takes long time for loading.
Use an animated gif for less sophisticated effects.

It's getting interesting aswell if there are any scripts that can cut gifs
in the same way.

PHP has many functions for this and the <title> problem can easily be solved
with PHP.


I forgot to reduce the file size of the single screencaped gifs of your
applet. lol
 
N

nice.guy.nige

While the city slept, George W (look@signature_to.reply) feverishly typed...
Newbie question here ...

I'm putting together my first Website with frames using FrontPage. No
matter which page I navigate to on the Website, the title bar always
displays the title that belongs to file index.htm. How do I make the
title bar display the title of the current main page? The site is

www.stargazerrestaurant.com

Ditch the frames... or if you *really must* use them, try this that I
knocked up for someone a while back:
http://www.nigenet.org.uk/bits-n-bobs/changeTitle/ It uses javascript to
change the frameset's title, but note that it will not work in Netscape 4.*,
or any browser that does not have javascript available and enabled.

.... But you really would be better off ditching the frames!

Cheers,
Nige
 

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