What font is that?

[dorayme]

To be honest I can't really remember how I got it, but (having used it on my
previous Windoze PC) it was one of the first things I put on my squeaky-new
Mac so I was by no means a Mac expert! I think having downloaded Firefox, I
probably did Tools - Extensions - Get Extensions, and it was all there when I
restarted Firefox. (You do have to quit Firefox properly and then restart it
AFAIR). Good luck.

Thanks Sally, this might have worked but I did it using a method
recommended by a guy who brakes for lawn deer. You too can have

http://dorayme.150m.com/jokes/coupleGoingOut.html

Everyone else, please understand that it is not yours even though
you can look...

 

[Toby Inkster]

ISTR that Opera for Linux/UNIX used to have a "font debug" mode.[...]
I doubt it's still in more recent versions though. Probably disappeared
when version 7 came out.

That would be very good indeed! Can't see it in my Opera (approx
or penultimately the latest)...

Yowser! It's still in there. (In the Linux version anyway -- I've had a
quick look at the Mac OS X version's command line options, and it doesn't
seem to be there.)

Shut down Opera, open up your terminal, and run "opera -fontdebug". As
Opera runs, it will spew out tonnes of font-related messages onto the
terminal. It will tell you the name of each font as it loads when Opera
starts up; then it will say "And the winners are..." and tell you which
five fonts have "won the contest" to be the five generic CSS fonts; it
will tell you which fonts it's using for the browser chrome; then whenever
you load a page, or highlight some text, it will tell you which font it's
in, on a word-by-word basis.

 

[Sally Thompson]

http://dorayme.150m.com/jokes/coupleGoingOut.html

ROFL! I actually cried with laughter when I read this.

 

[Jim Higson]

Well, do I? If the P is there, if the text is there, if it is
specified in the css at least to filter down to the P and the
page is reasonably valid, is there any way to use this fancy
doodle DOM inspector to track it down? Never mind tabs and
carriage returns Jonathan! Lets get down to business! You
cleverly tracked down something in the footnote ok! So why
exactly is it so hard to track down the rest?

The text is a node, not an element. Only elements have CSS rules, the
textnodes inside them use those rules.

So in this case you'd just look at the rules of the P, which apply to the
text inside it.

 

[Beauregard T. Shagnasty]

I tried also from your link Sally, just now, and I got down a .xpi
file (as I did from Jim's link). Question is how to install it?

From Firefox menu:
File > Open File
In resulting dialog, point to the .xpi file
Click [ Open ]

Well! You could knock me down with a feather Beauregard, 3 secs
work and it is done. Thanks. May I offer you something? A little
tale perhaps... http://dorayme.150m.com/jokes/coupleGoingOut.html

Nice joke, but I'd rather have an egg sandwich...

 

[dorayme]

The text is a node, not an element. Only elements have CSS rules, the
textnodes inside them use those rules.

So in this case you'd just look at the rules of the P, which apply to the
text inside it.

Jim, lets get down to brass tacks! In the example I gave to
Jonathan, at sn2.com.au, you open this crystal ball called DOM
inspector and you try to find the font(s) used in a P in a <td>.
How do you "just look at the rules of the P"?

 

[Jim Higson]

Jim, lets get down to brass tacks! In the example I gave to
Jonathan, at sn2.com.au, you open this crystal ball called DOM
inspector and you try to find the font(s) used in a P in a <td>.
How do you "just look at the rules of the P"?

I can't find any elements on sn2.com.au that don't have information in the
Computed Style avaliable. Which bit of the page can't you get the computed
style for?

I use the tool on the top-left of the inspector (the one that lets you
select a node by clicking), then click on the paragraphs on the right, then
on where it says "Object - DOM node" and select "Object - Selected Style"
instead.

If you are on a non-element node (ie #text) there'll only be "Object - DOM
node" and "Javascript Object" avaliable. So if this is a case, look at the
parent node instead.

Hope this helps!

 

[dorayme]

I can't find any elements on sn2.com.au that don't have information in the
Computed Style avaliable. Which bit of the page can't you get the computed
style for?

I use the tool on the top-left of the inspector (the one that lets you
select a node by clicking), then click on the paragraphs on the right, then
on where it says "Object - DOM node" and select "Object - Selected Style"
instead.

If you are on a non-element node (ie #text) there'll only be "Object - DOM
node" and "Javascript Object" avaliable. So if this is a case, look at the
parent node instead.

Hope this helps!

Actually, yes, it did! I see, finally. There are so many buttons
everywhere doing every kind of thing. I think I will ask my minders
back on Mars to let me go to Earth at the 18th Century mark for my next
visit.

In Witness, there is a scene when Harrison Ford is up from recuperating
a near fatal injury at the Amish Lapp family home. He is dressing in
Rachel's late husband's clothes. There were no buttons on it and Rachel
explained that the Amish regarded buttons as too "proud" and "haughty"
or something like this. (It was one of the Shakespearian light relief
scenes in this brilliant film). I wonder how Amish people make
websites, there would be no buttons (perhaps plain text links)? Any
Amish at alt.html willing to enlighten me on this matter?

(Newserver is down, so this is Google reply... I know to press the
Option button because Els said to to someone once and it stuck in my
memory)