What is the HTML tag that makes text display without interpretation ?

A

aSchwarzie

Hi NewsGroup,

I'm searching for the HTML tag (or related method) that would allow me to
display HTML instructions in Internet Explorer without the browser trying to
interpret it.

The <PRE> tag only keeps the look and feel, and is convenient only to
display scripting code...
but the other standard tags are being interpreted...

I need this in a weblog where I try to provide some weblog edition technical
help...

Can anyone help me ?

Kind regards,

Arnie

ps: please reply to this post and/on: a_s_c_h_w_a_r_z_i_e @ hotmail DOT
com
 
J

Jukka K. Korpela

aSchwarzie said:
I'm searching for the HTML tag (or related method) that would allow me
to display HTML instructions in Internet Explorer without the browser
trying to interpret it.

For the umpteenth time, use &lt; for < and &amp; for &.

Besides, they are markup, not instructions.
I need this in a weblog where I try to provide some weblog edition
technical help...

Do you seriously think that you are qualified to write _about_ HTML and
give technical help on it, if you were not able to find out this simple
thing by yourself? Any decent tutorial tells it.
ps: please reply to this post and/on: a_s_c_h_w_a_r_z_i_e @ hotmail
DOT com

Please get a clue. Hints:
http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/usenet/mail-responses.html
 
A

aSchwarzie

Jukka K. Korpela said:
For the umpteenth time, use &lt; for < and &amp; for &.
I *have* been using these since ages, be assured. You might however have
noticed that I mentioned using a weblog here. The blog edition interface
accepts these "&lt;" and "&gt;" pretty fine only at initial input (and
displays okay). However, when I'm recalling the stored html info in the
so-called editor -- to add some more texte or correct it -- , all &lt; &gt
etc... got "interpreted" and displayed there as < and > signs. This forces
me to convert them manually all again into &lt; and &gt; which is a real
*pain* in the neck (to remain polite).

I thought that there would still be a markup around to help me out, even if
"deprecated" as long as it would still work with recent browsers. Would
have been really easy. Helas, I could not find such indications at w3c.org,
nor was there any workaround suggested. Hence my post here.
Besides, they are markup, not instructions.
Thanks for the correction. By the way my intent is to display *source*, not
only markups.
Do you seriously think that you are qualified to write _about_ HTML and
give technical help on it, if you were not able to find out this simple
thing by yourself? Any decent tutorial tells it.
Sure it does. But it does not address my concern for the reason explained
above.

Finally, yes it happened I have been helping out more people than you would
imagine, mainly with technical support in html and scripting. Asking this
newsgroup a question about a "basic" HTML concept doesn't necessarily make
me inqualified.
 
T

Toby A Inkster

aSchwarzie said:
I *have* been using these since ages, be assured. You might however have
noticed that I mentioned using a weblog here. The blog edition interface
accepts these "&lt;" and "&gt;" pretty fine only at initial input (and
displays okay). However, when I'm recalling the stored html info in the
so-called editor -- to add some more texte or correct it -- , all &lt; &gt
etc... got "interpreted" and displayed there as < and > signs. This forces
me to convert them manually all again into &lt; and &gt; which is a real
*pain* in the neck (to remain polite).

This is really a problem with your web log software. It *should* replace
all &'s with "&amp;" when it creates the text area for you to edit the
page. If this is done properly, "&lt;" will become "&amp;lt;" and will be
displayed as "&lt;" in the text area.

Which blogging software are you using that screws this up?
 
A

aSchwarzie

Toby A Inkster said:
This is really a problem with your web log software. It *should* replace
all &'s with "&amp;" when it creates the text area for you to edit the
page. If this is done properly, "&lt;" will become "&amp;lt;" and will be
displayed as "&lt;" in the text area.

Which blogging software are you using that screws this up?

I fully agree with you !!! I however have no control on the blog software.
It is provided by my ISP, which is Skynet here (www.skynetblogs.be)
You can give it a try, it's free ... any hint is welcome ! Thanks in
advance :)
 
T

Toby A Inkster

aSchwarzie said:
I fully agree with you !!! I however have no control on the blog
software.

Then I guess the only solution is for every edit, to cut all the text out
of the text area, paste it into a text editor and run search and replace
-- always convert "&" to "&amp;" first -- before worrying about < and >.

A good text editor may be able to record these actions as a macro,
making things easier the next time round.
 
A

aSchwarzie

Toby A Inkster said:
Then I guess the only solution is for every edit, to cut all the text out
of the text area, paste it into a text editor and run search and replace
-- always convert "&" to "&amp;" first -- before worrying about < and >.

A good text editor may be able to record these actions as a macro,
making things easier the next time round.

Thanks for the tip, Toby. Looks like I'm back to square 1. :)

Currently, I'm editing the text in FrontPage "normal" view to give it the
wanted look & feel, when done I switch to HTML view and copy and paste it
all to MS-Word for the Find&Replace job to the relevant sections that I
formerly colored in blue for easy later edition... I also have to add <BR>
tags otherwise all that section's text is forced on on row... then I save
the result as a document, before copying and pasting it all in the weblog
editor... :-/
Pretty annoying, isn't it ?

Thanks again for all.
 

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