Why top posting is considered wrong?

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192.168.0.1

It doesn't make a sense to me!

When you see the subject and you've read the first post, than if, you
want to answer, my logic tells me, that instead a force users to scroll
down and find (sometimes very far from the top!) these 3 words I was
looking for, better put it on the top!

Ezsier for reader, easier for poster!

When I see a someone posting an answer on the top, what a relief.

Don't have to scroll down!

Easier and faster, especially, when the previous message is long and
whole, which is wrong as well IMHO.

When I see someone top posting, I do appreciate because I know, that
under his (her) post is nothing I didn't read before. When someone is
answering on certain elements of the post, that's entire different story.

I think I will top post regardless opinions of others because... I like
that way!

Unless I will hear a STRONG reason for posting on the bottom of the post!

Cheers...
 
D

David Dorward

192.168.0.1 said:
When you see the subject and you've read the first post

Have you? That assumes that the first post arrived first (which isn't always
the case) AND is still on the news server AND that "having read the first
first" gives you enough context - if you have been reading a lot of other
messages in the same thread it is quite likely you need more specific
context.
instead a force users to scroll down and find (sometimes very far from the
top!) these 3 words I was looking for, better put it on the top!

If users have to scroll that far, then the poster is overquoting. Quoted
material should be trimmed so there is enough for context, but no more.
I think I will top post regardless opinions of others because... I like
that way!

I think that will get you added to kill files.
 
N

Noozer

192.168.0.1 said:
It doesn't make a sense to me!

When you see the subject and you've read the first post, than if, you want
to answer, my logic tells me, that instead a force users to scroll down
and find (sometimes very far from the top!) these 3 words I was looking
for, better put it on the top!

Because you should TRIM the posts you reply to and, logically, reply IN
LINE. Not at the top or bottom.
When I see a someone posting an answer on the top, what a relief.
Don't have to scroll down!

No... then a) you are being lazy, and/or b) the poster was lazy and didn't
trim the post properly.
Easier and faster, especially, when the previous message is long and
whole, which is wrong as well IMHO.
I think I will top post regardless opinions of others because... I like
that way!

Do what you like... Those that don't like it will just *plonk* you.
 
B

Beauregard T. Shagnasty

192.168.0.1 said:
It doesn't make a sense to me!

Usenet is not one-on-one email.

open the front cover and begin reading there?
the back cover and end up at the front or do you
chapter one or do you start somewhere near
When reading a book, do you start at

If you top-post a reply to a message from several days ago, people will
still need to scroll down to see what you are replying to, then scroll
back up to read your response, because they will likely have forgotten
the original points, or need to refresh their memory. Especially for
someone who reads hundreds of posts every day.

They would also need to figure out or guess at which points you are
replying to, if the post is far along in a thread. Here's where good
inline posting is valuable.

Due to lack of trimming, TOFU was born.
Text Oben Fullquote Unten (German)
Text Over, Fullquote Under

And, if you don't quote anything, due to the nature of Usenet
propagation, the message you are replying to may not have made it to my
news-server yet, so if there is no quote, I won't know why you are
writing what you did.

And of course, *inline posting* is most desirable. With judicious
trimming.
 
M

me

"When thou enter a city, abide by its customs." -The Talmud


Quoting Style in Newsgroup Postings
http://www.xs4all.nl/~wijnands/nnq/nquote.html

How do I quote correctly in usenet?
http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote2.html

Common Mistakes in Usenet Postings and How to Avoid Them
http://www.complang.tuwien.ac.at/anton/mail-news-errors.html#quoting

Bottom vs. top posting and quotation style on Usenet
http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/usenet/brox.html

Why bottom-posting is better than top-posting
http://www.caliburn.nl/topposting.html

+What do you mean "my reply is upside-down"?
http://www.i-hate-computers.demon.co.uk/quote.html
 
J

Jonathan N. Little

192.168.0.1 said:
It doesn't make a sense to me!

Cannot help your shortcomings! An ya, most people read from top to
bottom on planet Earth.

Q1:...
A1:...

Q2:...
A2:...

Q3:...
A3:...
 
G

Greg N.

If a post and a quote are so short that they can both be grasped without
even rolling your eyeballs (normal reading comprehension assumed), top
posting is fine with me.
 
S

Sid Ismail

: If a post and a quote are so short that they can both be grasped without
: even rolling your eyeballs (normal reading comprehension assumed), top
: posting is fine with me.


It's like sitting at the luncheon table before the boss and the
ladies. Try and stick to the rules?

Of course, trim the post beforehand so that "they can both be grasped
without even rolling your eyeball" !!

Sid
 
G

Greg N.

Sid said:
It's like sitting at the luncheon table before the boss and the
ladies. Try and stick to the rules?

If a rule is only formally violated, while the violation does not cause
any justifiable irritation, annoyance, and disturbance, I'd expect the
boss and the ladies to ignore it.

If they have any class, that is.
 
N

Neredbojias

With neither quill nor qualm, Sid Ismail quothed:
: If a post and a quote are so short that they can both be grasped without
: even rolling your eyeballs (normal reading comprehension assumed), top
: posting is fine with me.


It's like sitting at the luncheon table before the boss and the
ladies. Try and stick to the rules?

Will never happen 100%. Some guys always try to stick it to the boss,
others to the ladies.
 
N

Neredbojias

With neither quill nor qualm, (e-mail address removed) quothed:
"When thou enter a city, abide by its customs." -The Talmud

What's smuggling got to do with it?
 
N

Neredbojias

With neither quill nor qualm, Jonathan N. Little quothed:
Cannot help your shortcomings! An ya, most people read from top to
bottom on planet Earth.

-except in body language.
 
G

Greg N.

Of course there is a fine line between harmless and
annoying top-posting. Good judgement is key.
 
E

Els

Greg said:
Of course there is a fine line between harmless and
annoying top-posting. Good judgement is key.

You're avoiding the question - did that post make sense when read on
its own? Does this one? Are you gonna teach each top-poster this
judgement?

I reckon it's easier to just bottom-post and have everybody do so.

And this message is only 3 levels deep. Now have one with 5 levels.
 

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