flash swf

Discussion in 'HTML' started by abby, Mar 1, 2005.

  1. abby

    abby Guest

    Is there a code markup to have a flash swf on a page which validates to
    w3c standards?
    The short version offered by w3schools.com doesn't validate for me:
    <object width="550" height="400">
    <param name="movie" value="somefilename.swf">
    <embed src="somefilename.swf" width="550" height="400">
    </embed>
    </object>

    Thanks,
    --
    Abby
    abby, Mar 1, 2005
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  2. abby

    WebMaster Guest

    "abby" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > Is there a code markup to have a flash swf on a page which validates to
    > w3c standards?


    Not really. You can use this, if you like:
    http://www.alistapart.com/articles/flashsatay/, but the question is if it is
    really worth all the trouble...

    Anyway, have fun :)
    --

    Rudy
    http://www.rol.be
    --
    Toon mij een cynicus en ik toon u een teleurgestelde idealist.

    > The short version offered by w3schools.com doesn't validate for me:
    > <object width="550" height="400">
    > <param name="movie" value="somefilename.swf">
    > <embed src="somefilename.swf" width="550" height="400">
    > </embed>
    > </object>
    >
    > Thanks,
    > --
    > Abby
    >
    WebMaster, Mar 1, 2005
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  3. abby

    abby Guest

    WebMaster wrote:
    > "abby" <> wrote in message
    > news:...
    > > Is there a code markup to have a flash swf on a page which

    validates to
    > > w3c standards?

    >
    > Not really. You can use this, if you like:
    > http://www.alistapart.com/articles/flashsatay/, but the question is

    if it is
    > really worth all the trouble...
    >
    > Anyway, have fun :)


    Yeah, reading that article was s-o-o much fun ...but it still doesn't
    work ...I probably got lost in the verbal clutter :)

    --
    A


    > --
    >
    > Rudy
    > http://www.rol.be
    > --
    > Toon mij een cynicus en ik toon u een teleurgestelde idealist.
    >
    abby, Mar 1, 2005
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  4. abby

    SpaceGirl Guest

    abby wrote:
    > WebMaster wrote:
    >
    >>"abby" <> wrote in message
    >>news:...
    >>
    >>>Is there a code markup to have a flash swf on a page which

    >
    > validates to
    >
    >>>w3c standards?

    >>
    >>Not really. You can use this, if you like:
    >>http://www.alistapart.com/articles/flashsatay/, but the question is

    >
    > if it is
    >
    >>really worth all the trouble...
    >>
    >>Anyway, have fun :)

    >
    >
    > Yeah, reading that article was s-o-o much fun ...but it still doesn't
    > work ...I probably got lost in the verbal clutter :)
    >
    > --
    > A
    >
    >
    >
    >>--
    >>
    >>Rudy
    >>http://www.rol.be
    >>--
    >>Toon mij een cynicus en ik toon u een teleurgestelde idealist.
    >>

    >
    >


    It is a terrible article. Just look at the source of
    www.subhuman.net/news/news.asp - it has Flash in it. The mark up
    validates as XHTML trans.
    SpaceGirl, Mar 2, 2005
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  5. abby

    Steve Pugh Guest

    SpaceGirl <> wrote:
    >> WebMaster wrote:
    >>>"abby" <> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>>Is there a code markup to have a flash swf on a page which
    >>>> validates to w3c standards?
    >>>
    >>>Not really. You can use this, if you like:
    >>>http://www.alistapart.com/articles/flashsatay/, but the question is

    >>

    >
    >It is a terrible article.


    In the sense of being rather badly written. Technically it's spot on
    though.

    >Just look at the source of
    >www.subhuman.net/news/news.asp - it has Flash in it. The mark up
    >validates as XHTML trans.


    subhuman.net:
    <object type="application/x-shockwave-flash"
    data="../animation/menu.swf" width="298" height="100">
    <param name="movie" value="../animation/menu.swf" />
    </object>

    A List Apart:
    <object type="application/x-shockwave-flash"
    data="movie.swf" width="400" height="300">
    <param name="movie" value="movie.swf" />
    </object>

    Spot the difference?

    The only time the satay part of the ALA articles is needed is when you
    have a large Flash movie that you want to be streamed. For small,
    non-streaming movies the above code, which the ALA article gives half
    way, down works fine.

    But in both cases the <object> element is missing any content. That's
    forgivable on ALA where they're talking about hypothectical code and
    where alternative content at the end of the article but is
    unforgivable on a real web site. subhuman.net looks rather silly with
    the top half of the right hand column being nothing but a blank space.

    Steve

    --
    "My theories appal you, my heresies outrage you,
    I never answer letters and you don't like my tie." - The Doctor

    Steve Pugh <> <http://steve.pugh.net/>
    Steve Pugh, Mar 2, 2005
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  6. abby

    Adrienne Guest

    Gazing into my crystal ball I observed Steve Pugh <> writing
    in news::

    > SpaceGirl <> wrote:
    >>> WebMaster wrote:
    >>>>"abby" <> wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>>Is there a code markup to have a flash swf on a page which validates
    >>>>>to w3c standards?
    >>>>
    >>>>Not really. You can use this, if you like:
    >>>>http://www.alistapart.com/articles/flashsatay/, but the question is
    >>>

    >>
    >>It is a terrible article.

    >
    > In the sense of being rather badly written. Technically it's spot on
    > though.
    >
    >>Just look at the source of
    >>www.subhuman.net/news/news.asp - it has Flash in it. The mark up
    >>validates as XHTML trans.

    >
    > subhuman.net:
    ><object type="application/x-shockwave-flash"
    > data="../animation/menu.swf" width="298" height="100"> <param
    > name="movie" value="../animation/menu.swf" /> </object>
    >
    > A List Apart:
    ><object type="application/x-shockwave-flash" data="movie.swf"
    > width="400" height="300"> <param name="movie" value="movie.swf" />
    ></object>
    >
    > Spot the difference?
    >
    > The only time the satay part of the ALA articles is needed is when you
    > have a large Flash movie that you want to be streamed. For small,
    > non-streaming movies the above code, which the ALA article gives half
    > way, down works fine.
    >
    > But in both cases the <object> element is missing any content. That's
    > forgivable on ALA where they're talking about hypothectical code and
    > where alternative content at the end of the article but is
    > unforgivable on a real web site. subhuman.net looks rather silly with
    > the top half of the right hand column being nothing but a blank space.
    >
    > Steve
    >


    Subhuman works fine for IE and Opera, but FF has the blank area on my
    system.

    I get around that by putting a static image, eg:
    <object ...>
    <img>
    </object>

    Of course that only works if the flash isn't interactive.

    --
    Adrienne Boswell
    http://www.cavalcade-of-coding.info
    Please respond to the group so others can share
    Adrienne, Mar 2, 2005
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  7. abby

    SpaceGirl Guest

    Adrienne wrote:
    > Gazing into my crystal ball I observed Steve Pugh <> writing
    > in news::
    >
    >
    >>SpaceGirl <> wrote:
    >>
    >>>>WebMaster wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>>"abby" <> wrote:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>>>Is there a code markup to have a flash swf on a page which validates
    >>>>>>to w3c standards?
    >>>>>
    >>>>>Not really. You can use this, if you like:
    >>>>>http://www.alistapart.com/articles/flashsatay/, but the question is
    >>>>
    >>>It is a terrible article.

    >>
    >>In the sense of being rather badly written. Technically it's spot on
    >>though.
    >>
    >>
    >>>Just look at the source of
    >>>www.subhuman.net/news/news.asp - it has Flash in it. The mark up
    >>>validates as XHTML trans.

    >>
    >>subhuman.net:
    >><object type="application/x-shockwave-flash"
    >>data="../animation/menu.swf" width="298" height="100"> <param
    >>name="movie" value="../animation/menu.swf" /> </object>
    >>
    >>A List Apart:
    >><object type="application/x-shockwave-flash" data="movie.swf"
    >>width="400" height="300"> <param name="movie" value="movie.swf" />
    >></object>
    >>
    >>Spot the difference?
    >>
    >>The only time the satay part of the ALA articles is needed is when you
    >>have a large Flash movie that you want to be streamed. For small,
    >>non-streaming movies the above code, which the ALA article gives half
    >>way, down works fine.
    >>
    >>But in both cases the <object> element is missing any content. That's
    >>forgivable on ALA where they're talking about hypothectical code and
    >>where alternative content at the end of the article but is
    >>unforgivable on a real web site. subhuman.net looks rather silly with
    >>the top half of the right hand column being nothing but a blank space.
    >>
    >> Steve
    >>

    >
    >
    > Subhuman works fine for IE and Opera, but FF has the blank area on my
    > system.
    >
    > I get around that by putting a static image, eg:
    > <object ...>
    > <img>
    > </object>
    >
    > Of course that only works if the flash isn't interactive.
    >


    Yep. Which is why the site is a preview site. The "full fat" version
    goes live later this month.
    SpaceGirl, Mar 2, 2005
    #7
  8. abby wrote:
    > Is there a code markup to have a flash swf on a page which validates

    to
    > w3c standards?


    Using embed works EVERYHWERE.

    Complying to w3c, in reguards to flash doesn't. (Even the allspice work
    around has limitations, and fails.)

    Which is more important? That you are compliant, or that it works?

    You decide.


    --
    -=tn=-
    Travis Newbury, Mar 3, 2005
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