Looking for (X)HTML/CSS valid web sites

[Andrea]

Hi, I hope not to disturb you in this ng. I am Andrea, the owner and
webmaster of www.freshcss.com, a web site entirely dedicated to Cascading
Style Sheets. My site has, among other things, a gallery section, that is a
showcase of web sites found to be well designed, beautiful and valid
according to the latest web standards.

Unfortunately, I am discovering that it's very hard to find beautiful and,
at the same time, HTML/XHTML+CSS valid web sites! Too many web agencies/web
designers doesn't care about validation and web standards. So, for me,
looking for valid web sites is similar to looking for a needle in a
haystack!!!

If you own or simply know some valid web sites, you are welcome to submit
them to FreshCSS. My site is growing and I would like to find more
interesting sites for the following months.

Thanks.

 

[Marian Heddesheimer]

Unfortunately, I am discovering that it's very hard to find beautiful and,
at the same time, HTML/XHTML+CSS valid web sites! Too many web agencies/web

not sure if my site qualifies as "beautiful" but it qualifies as valid
XHTML 1.0 Strict

http://www.lernpilot.de/wbt/

Marian

 

[Kim André Akerø]

Hi, I hope not to disturb you in this ng. I am Andrea, the owner and
webmaster of www.freshcss.com, a web site entirely dedicated to Cascading
Style Sheets. My site has, among other things, a gallery section, that is a
showcase of web sites found to be well designed, beautiful and valid
according to the latest web standards.

Unfortunately, I am discovering that it's very hard to find beautiful and,
at the same time, HTML/XHTML+CSS valid web sites! Too many web agencies/web
designers doesn't care about validation and web standards. So, for me,
looking for valid web sites is similar to looking for a needle in a
haystack!!!

If you own or simply know some valid web sites, you are welcome to submit
them to FreshCSS. My site is growing and I would like to find more
interesting sites for the following months.

Sure, why not? These are mine, all mine. You'll be the judge of what's
"beautiful" in your eyes.
http://www.kimandre.com/
http://www.neonnero.com/

Two gems from my point of view, both 100% valid XHTML 1.0 and CSS.

 

[Travis Newbury]

not sure if my site qualifies as "beautiful" but it qualifies as valid
XHTML 1.0 Strict
http://www.lernpilot.de/wbt/

Bland and boxy. Just most validating sites.

 

[Travis Newbury]

Sure, why not? These are mine, all mine. You'll be the judge of what's
"beautiful" in your eyes.
http://www.kimandre.com/

Not beautiful, but interesting look.

http://www.neonnero.com/

Bland and boxy like most others.

 

[Kim André Akerø]

Not beautiful, but interesting look.


Bland and boxy like most others.

Okay, mr. Know-It-All.. Let's see yours, then.

 

[Travis Newbury]

Okay, mr. Know-It-All.. Let's see yours, then.

I don't make websites. I make web applications, and NONE of then even
come close to validating (Nor do they have to). But having a site is
not a prerequisite for having an "opinion". You asked an "opinion"
question. I gave you my "opinion" If you don't want my "opinion" then
don't ask for it. If you want me to lie and tell you what you want to
hear, then ask me to do that.

 

[Kevin Scholl]

Eh, why not? Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, I suppose, but can't
hurt to get others' opinions. Here's a couple...

http://www.ksscholl.com/home.shtml
http://www.teamvinci.com/

Hi, I hope not to disturb you in this ng. I am Andrea, the owner and
webmaster of www.freshcss.com, a web site entirely dedicated to Cascading
Style Sheets. My site has, among other things, a gallery section, that is a
showcase of web sites found to be well designed, beautiful and valid
according to the latest web standards.

Unfortunately, I am discovering that it's very hard to find beautiful and,
at the same time, HTML/XHTML+CSS valid web sites! Too many web agencies/web
designers doesn't care about validation and web standards. So, for me,
looking for valid web sites is similar to looking for a needle in a
haystack!!!

If you own or simply know some valid web sites, you are welcome to submit
them to FreshCSS. My site is growing and I would like to find more
interesting sites for the following months.

Thanks.

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[kchayka]

www.freshcss.com

Every time I see one of those "pick a text size" things on a web site I
cringe. FYI, your idea of "large" text and mine aren't anywhere near
each other.

If you had researched the subject of CSS font-size units, you would have
found that pt units are not suitable for screen display (nor is px). If
you use % units instead, you won't even need a font-size picker,
assuming you leave body text at the visitor's default 100%.

During your travels through this ng's archives, you might also have found:

My site has, among other things, a gallery section, that is a
showcase of web sites found to be well designed, beautiful and valid
according to the latest web standards.

Well designed must be in the eye of the beholder. :-\ Or is it a
prerequisite for "good" design to have unreadable text (microfonts
and/or low-contrasting colors) and a fixed-width layout?

 

[Adrienne]

Hi, I hope not to disturb you in this ng. I am Andrea, the owner and
webmaster of www.freshcss.com, a web site entirely dedicated to
Cascading Style Sheets. My site has, among other things, a gallery
section, that is a showcase of web sites found to be well designed,
beautiful and valid according to the latest web standards.

Unfortunately, I am discovering that it's very hard to find beautiful
and, at the same time, HTML/XHTML+CSS valid web sites! Too many web
agencies/web designers doesn't care about validation and web standards.
So, for me, looking for valid web sites is similar to looking for a
needle in a haystack!!!

If you own or simply know some valid web sites, you are welcome to
submit them to FreshCSS. My site is growing and I would like to find
more interesting sites for the following months.

Thanks.

I liked http://www.rosettacaravanpark.co.uk

 

[Els]

www.freshcss.com

Andrea, you have a little problem on your site:
http://locusmeus.com/html-css/pageslipping.html

 

[Travis Newbury]

I liked http://www.rosettacaravanpark.co.uk

Nice site, but it still falls into the "plane and boxy" look and feel.
The problem is not CSS for design, the problem is that the people that
know CSS are not designers they are techies. When the designers
eventually take hold of CSS this will change.

 

[Els]

Nice site, but it still falls into the "plane and boxy" look and feel.
The problem is not CSS for design, the problem is that the people that
know CSS are not designers they are techies. When the designers
eventually take hold of CSS this will change.

To be honest, I think most table layout designs have the same 'boxy'
look. Maybe you can give some examples of non-boxy designs, even if
they're table layout?

 

[Andrea]

Nice site, but it still falls into the "plane and boxy" look and feel.
The problem is not CSS for design, the problem is that the people that
know CSS are not designers they are techies. When the designers
eventually take hold of CSS this will change.

Where is the problem?? www.rosettacaravanpark.co.uk looks well (surely
better than other sites I viewed recently and made by so called
"professionists" !) and respects also XHTML and CSS specifications.

The question is not if one is a designer or a techie!

 

[Andrea]

Andrea, you have a little problem on your site:
http://locusmeus.com/html-css/pageslipping.html

Are you sure???? I use Mozilla 1.7.x and Firefox 1.0.x on a Win2k for my
tests and I can assure you that there are no problems shrinking the window!
If I load FreshCSS on these browsers and then I shrink the window (for
example at only 300x400 pixels) there are no strange effects and I can move
normally into the site using horizontal/vertical scrollbars. So, for me is
ok.

If you have found some very specific/particular/strange case, send me a
screenshot through email, specifing the O.S./browser versions. You can email
me removing uppercase letters and hyphens from my email address.

 

[Els]

Are you sure???? I use Mozilla 1.7.x and Firefox 1.0.x on a Win2k for my
tests and I can assure you that there are no problems shrinking the window!

Yes, I'm sure. As I state on my site, Firefox 1.0 and higher don't
show that problem. I was looking at your pages in Firebird 0.6.

If I load FreshCSS on these browsers and then I shrink the window (for
example at only 300x400 pixels) there are no strange effects and I can move
normally into the site using horizontal/vertical scrollbars. So, for me is
ok.

Unfortunately for your visitors, they are not you

If you have found some very specific/particular/strange case, send me a
screenshot through email,

Ask in group, get answer in group:
http://locusmeus.com/temp/freshcss.png

specifing the O.S./browser versions.

WinXP Home, Firebird 0.6, but without looking, I can say it's the same
for Netscape and Mozilla, although I admittedly haven't got Mozilla
1.7.x, so maybe the problem is solved in that version already.

You can email
me removing uppercase letters and hyphens from my email address.

I have no intention of emailing you about this

 

[Andrea]

Ask in group, get answer in group:
http://locusmeus.com/temp/freshcss.png

Ahhhh ... ok ... I have viewed! You have reason.

WinXP Home, Firebird 0.6, but without looking, I can say it's the same
for Netscape and Mozilla, although I admittedly haven't got Mozilla
1.7.x, so maybe the problem is solved in that version already.

But note that you are speaking about a "prehistoric" browser!

I have no intention of emailing you about this

No problem, thanks the same!

 

[Els]

Ahhhh ... ok ... I have viewed! You have reason.


But note that you are speaking about a "prehistoric" browser!

I know - I also use Firefox 1.0, but I use Firebird 0.6 especially so
I notice problems that other people on "prehistoric" browsers will see

 

[Toby Inkster]

But note that you are speaking about a "prehistoric" browser!

But note that Firebird 0.6 was released about 1 month after Netscape 7.1,
so uses a very similar version of the rendering engine Gecko. Any problems
in Firebird 0.6.x will probably be found in Netscape 7.1 as well.

 

[Travis Newbury]

To be honest, I think most table layout designs have the same 'boxy'
look. Maybe you can give some examples of non-boxy designs, even if
they're table layout?

www.tbs.com and compare that to the site in your signiture.
http://locusmeus.com

I prefer the TBS site hands down in both looks and style. Remeber,
this is an opinion, yours may differ. But I feel the TBS look is what
I consider "finished" Your site while it might be accessible to all
,and validate or whatever, doesn not have the same "finished"
porfessional look.

Could it be done with CSS, sure it could. But it isn't because the
designers have not taken a hold of CSS yet. Maybe someday they will.

YMMV

ps. Cute kid