OT - to non USA folks

[Barbara de Zoete]

Thus spake Barbara de Zoete:

It might be in need of a few blessings. Recently came across a list[1]
that explains why the United States of America are to be considered a
third world country :-D :

There was more, but this starts to build a picture.

:-/ Good luck US

[1]Had to translate the list, so I'm sorry if my use of english is bad.
Not sorry for the content.

Thank you for this list, Barbara. Does the remainder of the list
include lack of universal health care anywhere?

I dont remember that. There was some issues about social insurances, might
have included universal health care.

Is the (Dutch, I assume) source of this list online? Not that I'm
conversant in anything except English, but perhaps to save you the
effort I could translate the rest of it adequately using Google.

It was from a newspaper, the NRC (memory comes back now). Quite a while
ago, perhaps close to half a year ago or longer.
They are online, <http://www.nrc.nl/> but you have to be a registered user
(can register online) to be able to browse through their archives. I hate
that. Maybe someone else can give it a try.

I would be very interested in seeing the actual statistical comparisons,
especially among other "First World" countries.

IIRC the US were sort of benchmarked at criteria and statisticals from the
UN.

Not being much of a
statistics wonk, I hope I can get most of them through
http://www.nationmaster.com/.

Thanks again, especially for the luck.

You know, I actually mean that. A country hardly ever get the government
they voted for. So many things just seem to happen or get so complex, a
country is almost human in its nature.

 

[Greg Schmidt]

The way I see it is you have this small number of terrorists that
believe that their "God" is telling them that they must make everyone
believe like they do. And if someone does not convert they they must
kill that person. Should they die trying to accomplish this, they will
be rewarded in heaven (with the exact thing they are trying to eradicate
from the earth mightI add).

What disturbs me about this is that I'm not entirely sure whether you are
writing about Al Qaeda or Bush and his buddies.

 

[Jim]

Oh oh, and one more:
- the endorsement of slavery within their federal boundaries (because of
not doing anything about the illigal workers with no place to go, no civil
rights, no protection what so ever, doing all sorts of hard labour twelve
to sixteen hours a day, living with like fifteen people in two rooms).


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Since we're so awful and lowly why are so many people so concerned with us?
Oh that's right! We are the largest industrial power the earth has ever
known and the most benign superpower that's ever existed, aren't we awful!
What is it we want, freedom of choice, religion and personal rights for
everyone, aren't we awful! Perhaps you'd prefer we do as the Romans did or
the British did at the heights of their power?

 

[Barbara de Zoete]

Since we're so awful and lowly why are so many people so concerned with
us?
Oh that's right! We are the largest industrial power the earth has ever
known and the most benign superpower that's ever existed, aren't we
awful!
What is it we want, freedom of choice, religion and personal rights for
everyone, aren't we awful! Perhaps you'd prefer we do as the Romans did
or
the British did at the heights of their power?

Oh yes! Please do. They don't seem to be around anymore. So please, be my
guest and do as the Romans did.

 

[Edwin van der Vaart]

Since we're so awful and lowly why are so many people so concerned with us?
Oh that's right! We are the largest industrial power the earth has ever
known

It could be.

and the most benign superpower that's ever existed

Did you told that too, when you did send the Indians to the reservation
or when you dropped "the bom" in Japan?

aren't we awful!

Jee. What a Yahooooo.

 

[Jim]

It could be.

Did you told that too, when you did send the Indians to the reservation or
when you dropped "the bom" in Japan?

Jee. What a Yahooooo.

Did you told that too, when you did send the Indians to the reservation
or when you dropped "the bom" in Japan?

BTW, you need some practice with your English!

 

[Jim]

It could be.

Did you told that too, when you did send the Indians to the reservation or
when you dropped "the bom" in Japan?

Jee. What a Yahooooo.

Maybe you know and live under a better system, so where is it?

 

[Barbara de Zoete]

BTW, you need some practice with your English!

Oh, this is such a low and stupid remark. Let us all comminicate in French
then or German. To many of us, you too, a foreign language so we are all
eaqual there.

I have family relatives in the US, a lot of business relations too. I find
many of them are ignorant, naive, uneducated on what life is about, unable
to think for themselves, dependant on church and business and governmet,
not selfsupporting in anyway. I see you prooving yourself to be one of
those and stupidly angry too.
Don't pick on the ones critisizing your system. Find out why and try and
learn something.

BTW: you got ploinked, so bite me. I wont notice, cause you're not worth
it

 

[Eric B. Bednarz]

BTW, you need some practice with your English!

You may need some practice with your tautologies. He *is* practising
/his/ English.

 

[Jim]

You may need some practice with your tautologies. He *is* practising
/his/ English.

Look, here's all I really want to say and I'll drop the whole thing.

Everyone seems to want to run down the place of my birth and the place I
love. If I did the same to you, you would be upset! When ever something
happens in this world Americans are always the first to offer help in what
ever form is needed. Money, food, clothing, shelter, medical etc...etc...
I don't see all this American bashing when people are in need! We have good
hearts and do what we think is best and right. Anyone ever notice the
Billions of dollars and hundreds of thousands of American workers who give
of themselves? We have problems at home but never so much that we don't
care about others. And I really feel that no one would bail us out if it
meant giving of their own selves. So who cares, actions speak louder than
words..If you needed $10.000.000.000 of our tax dollars to feed yourself,
guess what! Us terrible Americans would give... And then someone would call
us awful, greedy, fat Americans. There are people out there who could tell
you how they were helped by Americans, how when they were in need the people
of the US gave their work, time and money to help. Take a look at the world
charities and see which country gives the most.
It's all those Fat, greedy, lazy, stupid Americans. Thanks for your
support! I hope we never need it!

 

[Lemming]

Fine, you think we are fuckwhits. So what, we are still happy with our
decision.


Big deal. Mary Poppins didn't get to vote either. Because of the size
of the pool (100+ million voters?) statistically there will be an equal
number of errors on both sides.

Clearly you know very little about computers, software testing, and
the problem with systematic errors (particularly if those errors are
introduced deliberately).

Pointing out one or the other is
meaningless and shows a lack of understanding of the system. On the
surface, and to the uneducated, news articles like this sway people.
But at a macro level, they are irrelevant.

On the contrary, it is complacent attitudes like yours that allows
corrupt regimes like yours to get away with their corruption for so
long.

Lemming

 

[Lemming]

I think there have been plenty of films about terrorists for many years
before the "war on terror".

Oh, yeah?

Arlington Road,

Don't know that one.

Die Hard,

Not about terrorists

The Peacemaker,

Don't know that one.

almost every Bond film,

Don't be silly. Most were about megalomaniacs or criminals. Were
*any* Bond films about terrorists?

True Lies,

This one is about terrorists.

Under Seige,

Not about terrorists.

Air Force One,

Don't know this one

Toy Soldiers,

You are having a laugh, aren't you?

Executive Decision, Face/Off...

Haven't seen these.

Try harder.

Lemming

 

[Aquila Deus]

Are you sure about that? I thought Kerry was about 120k behind, but
there are 200k of absentee ballots. It might be very unlikely he'll win
now, but not impossible.

Well, the point is that almost half of americans still choosed Bush....

 

[WebMaster]

Mind you, he doesn't need to from a political standpoint - he has strong
majorities to pass nearly anything he would like. But this country does
not need a politician in the Oval Office - it needs a statesman. I just
hope he's up to the challenge.


Does this not belong in something like *jokes* ??

Rudy

 

[Neal]

Mind you, he doesn't need to from a political standpoint - he has strong
majorities to pass nearly anything he would like. But this country does
not need a politician in the Oval Office - it needs a statesman. I just
hope he's up to the challenge.


Does this not belong in something like *jokes* ??

It would be funny, if it were not so true.

 

[Edwin van der Vaart]

BTW, you need some practice with your English!

Okay, English isn't my native language.
Also it was late. That's why the grammatic wasn't good.

I'm disapointed in you to pick on mine grammar, spelling and whether I
have to practice or not.

 

[jake]

[snip]

The world in general
is much less secure - and all to satisfy Bliar's vanity. I wonder how
he sleeps at night.

He sleeps the sleep of the righteous -- what else would he do when he's
helped (as part of the coalition of the willing) to deliver an entire
people from oppression.

Aye, I'll grant you that; He's freed over 100,000 of them to pieces.
url?

We're lucky to have a leader with a sense of what's right in this world.

If only it were so.

Relax; it is so.

 

[Thomas Mlynarczyk]

Also sprach Wayfarer:

I could translate the rest of it adequately using Google.

)) You could *either* translate it adequately *or* translate it using
Google. A Google translation will produce either something that is so
cryptic that no one can understand it anymore or something that is very
funny.

 

[WebMaster]

there is a whole list of countries (especially in de us's "backyard", but
certainly not limited to), where the us "helped (read invaded), and where
the people were better off before then after. Recent example: Irak. What's
the next thing this "benign" superpower is going to pull?

If the americans don't come meddle with (or help us, like you put it), we
will not need them. And please don't mention the war, because america only
got involved because the japanese where supid enough to bomb pearl harbor,
otherwise they wouldn't have bothered...

Rudy

 

[WebMaster]

europe, most of the western part

Rudy

Maybe you know and live under a better system, so where is it?