Transitional validation with "noscript"

sevillad · Sep 3, 2007

Hi,

I was trying to make my main page compliant (as per w3.org) for HTML
Transitional 4.01, and there's one error I can't solve:

http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=h...ct+automatically)&doctype=Inline&group=0&ss=1

From what I've read around, I think it's related to having "noscript"

inside a "p". And sure enough, if I remove the noscript, the page
validates. I have it in place there because I try to get my email in
the page with Javascript (to avoid some spam) and I want an
alternative for those who may turn it off. Well, actually it's more
out of curiosity that I'd like to find a neat solution

Thanks in advance,

David

John Hosking · Sep 3, 2007

sevillad said:
I was trying to make my main page compliant (as per w3.org) for HTML
Transitional 4.01, and there's one error I can't solve:

(why not HTML 4.01 strict?)

http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=h...ct+automatically)&doctype=Inline&group=0&ss=1

inside a "p". And sure enough, if I remove the noscript, the page
validates. I have it in place there because I try to get my email in
the page with Javascript (to avoid some spam) and I want an
alternative for those who may turn it off. Well, actually it's more
out of curiosity that I'd like to find a neat solution

It's not the <noscript> per se; it's what's inside it.

Your <p> tag is automatically (deemed to be) closed when the parser
comes to the <div> (which happens to be inside the <noscript> on line
50). The closing </p> tag is optional for <p>, and a <p> can't contain
block-level element (of which <div> is a prime example), so the <p> is
considered closed when the <div> shows up.

Later, after the div is opened and closed, the closing tag </p> shows
up, with no paragraph left open to be closed by it. Validation error.

It looks to me like you can just take the div-ness out of your noscript
block, but you'll have to try it and see. If it works, then you can try
changing your doctype to
<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN"
"http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd">

Adrienne Boswell · Sep 3, 2007

Hi,

I was trying to make my main page compliant (as per w3.org) for HTML
Transitional 4.01, and there's one error I can't solve:

http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://www.davidsevilla.com% 2F&
charset=%28detect+automatically%29&doctype=Inline&group=0&ss=1

inside a "p".

Yes, because NOSCRIPT is a block level element, and the P element cannot
contain other block level elements.

And sure enough, if I remove the noscript, the page

validates. I have it in place there because I try to get my email in
the page with Javascript (to avoid some spam) and I want an
alternative for those who may turn it off. Well, actually it's more
out of curiosity that I'd like to find a neat solution

Change the structure:
<p>
Phone: +43 (0)732 2468 5229<br>
Fax: +43 (0)732 2468 5212<br>
<script type="text/javascript">
emailE='oeaw.ac.at'
emailE=('david.sevilla' + '@' + emailE)
document.write('E-mail:<A href="mailto:'+emailE +'">'+emailE+'<'+'/a>')
</script>
</p>
<noscript>E-mail:<img src="email-ricam.png" height="21" width="167"
alt="My email"></noscript>

John Hosking · Sep 3, 2007

Adrienne said:
Gazing into my crystal ball I observed sevillad <[email protected]>
writing in news:[email protected]:

Yes, because NOSCRIPT is a block level element, and the P element cannot
contain other block level elements.

Well, I'll be dipped. You're right; it is.
http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/interact/scripts.html#edef-NOSCRIPT

And yet <script> isn't.
http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/interact/scripts.html#edef-SCRIPT

Now does that make sense? No.

dorayme · Sep 3, 2007

You have been taking a long time making up your mind. It is true
that some people are agnostic about the existence of God for
their whole lifetimes... Is it going to be like this?

Neredbojias · Sep 4, 2007

Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Mon, 03 Sep 2007 19:00:50
GMT John Hosking scribed:

Well, I'll be dipped. You're right; it is.
http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/interact/scripts.html#edef-NOSCRIPT

And yet <script> isn't.
http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/interact/scripts.html#edef-SCRIPT

Now does that make sense? No.

The contents of <noscript></noscript> is html. Not so with <script>
</script>.

John Hosking · Sep 4, 2007

Neredbojias said:
Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Mon, 03 Sep 2007 19:00:50
GMT John Hosking scribed:

The contents of <noscript></noscript> is html. Not so with <script>
</script>.

Okay, so now it makes sense. That happens sometimes after I actually
think about them.

Neredbojias · Sep 4, 2007

Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Tue, 04 Sep 2007 01:17:44 GMT
John Hosking scribed:

Okay, so now it makes sense. That happens sometimes after I actually
think about them.

He he, yes, I know what you mean.

What I said didn't actually occur to me until I read your message.

sevillad · Sep 4, 2007

Hi,

(why not HTML 4.01 strict?)

I decided some time ago about Transitional, if I remember well it was
because of some code (statcounter.com?) that was giving me trouble and
I didn't want to change. But yes, I'll make it all Strict compliant.

Thanks all for the answers and insight!

David

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