What a Funny Goup! I Asked a Question About Boost (C++ Filesystem Interface) & All I Got Is: My Ques

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Alan Morgan

It's ridiculous because only in newsgroups do you have such ridiculous
topic controls.
You don't see that happen real life.

Yes you do.
If you're in a class room that teaches only the C++ standard, and a
student asked the teacher about implementing an SMTP C++ class, what
do you think are the chances that the teacher would say, "No! We don't
discuss SMTP in this class. Go to another class that teaches SMTP!"

Actually, the teacher would very likely say "I have absolutely no idea
how to implement SMTP. Perhaps you should get a book on the subject".

Which is essentially what this newsgroup is telling you to do.

In my C classes (many years ago) I had a networking class that taught
me networking, a graphics class that taught me graphics, an OS class
that taught me about operating systems, and a compilers class that
taught me to hate compilers classes and those who teach them. I
also had a C class that taught me C. I tried to ask the appropriate
question in the appropriate class.

Alan
 
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Attila Feher

perseus said:
I think that everyone who told me that my question is irrelevant,
in particular Mr. David White,

Just like this post of your. Why do you waste bandwidth? Why do you rant?

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Greg Schmidt

Actually, I participate in two web site forums that have this type of
scope.
The C++ Expert-Exchange
CodeGuru C++ (Non Visual C++ Issues)

What? I can't discuss Visual C++ Issues in the CodeGuru forum? What a
ridiculous mentality to think that just because a topic is concerned
with Visual C++ that it shouldn't be discussed there.
 
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Agent Mulder

GS> What? I can't discuss Visual C++ Issues in the CodeGuru forum? What a
GS> ridiculous mentality to think that just because a topic is concerned
GS> with Visual C++ that it shouldn't be discussed there.

It's just that Visula C++ code is so ugly ;-)

-X
 
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Attila Feher

Greg said:
On 12 Aug 2003 20:35:57 -0700, (e-mail address removed) (foo) wrote: [SNIP]
Actually, I participate in two web site forums that have this type of
scope.
The C++ Expert-Exchange
CodeGuru C++ (Non Visual C++ Issues)

What? I can't discuss Visual C++ Issues in the CodeGuru forum? What
a
ridiculous mentality to think that just because a topic is concerned
with Visual C++ that it shouldn't be discussed there.

If it conserns Visual C++ or not does not matter. What matters is: does it
belong to the topic of the C++ language (there is only one: the standard
language). If not, it does not matter if it is Linux programming or Ada
usage or Visual C++ Windows programming: it does NOT belong here. If you do
not like it, you have a loads of other forums to choose from. These are the
rules for this newsgroup:

Welcome to comp.lang.c++! Read this first.

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in a
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at the end of this post.

The FAQ (Frequently Asked Question) list has a wealth of information for
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Some netiquette topics which frequently crop up on comp.lang.c++ are
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* Should I post job advertisements and/or resumes on comp.lang.c++?
http://www.parashift.com/c++-faq-lite/how-to-post.html#faq-5.9

* What if I really need a job; should I post my resume on comp.lang.c++?
http://www.parashift.com/c++-faq-lite/how-to-post.html#faq-5.10

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http://www.parashift.com/c++-faq-lite/how-to-post.html#faq-5.11

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A list of some Newsgroups :
Languages and Programming
-------------------------
comp.lang.c The C Programming Language
comp.lang.asm.x86 x86 assembly language programming
comp.programming Non-language specific programming
comp.graphics.algorithms Issues of computer graphics

Operating Systems
-----------------
comp.os.msdos.programmer DOS, BIOS, Memory Models, interrupts,
screen handling, hardware
comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32 MS/Windows: Mice, DLLs, hardware
comp.os.os2.programmer.misc OS/2 Programming
comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc Macintosh Programming
comp.unix.programmer General Unix: processes, pipes, POSIX,
curses, sockets
comp.unix.[vendor] Various Unix vendors

Microsoft VC++
-------------
microsoft.public.vc.language VC++ issues
microsoft.public.vc.mfc MFC Issues

Borland C++ Builder
-------------------
borland.public.cppbuilder.language Borland C++ Builder
borland.public.cpp.language

-Shiva
http://www.slack.net/~shiva/
A copy of this is kept at http://www.slack.net/~shiva/welcome.txt
 
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Greg Schmidt

Greg said:
On 12 Aug 2003 20:35:57 -0700, (e-mail address removed) (foo) wrote: [SNIP]
Actually, I participate in two web site forums that have this type of
scope.
The C++ Expert-Exchange
CodeGuru C++ (Non Visual C++ Issues)

What? I can't discuss Visual C++ Issues in the CodeGuru forum? What
a
ridiculous mentality to think that just because a topic is concerned
with Visual C++ that it shouldn't be discussed there.

If it conserns Visual C++ or not does not matter. What matters is: does it
belong to the topic of the C++ language (there is only one: the standard
language). If not, it does not matter if it is Linux programming or Ada
usage or Visual C++ Windows programming: it does NOT belong here. If you do
not like it, you have a loads of other forums to choose from. These are the
rules for this newsgroup:

I think you have me confused with someone else. I was responding
(sarcastically (or is it ironically?)) to someone who had complained
that they can't post whatever they want in this group, and then posted
their shining examples of utopian discussion forums where there are no
such rules, except for one of their examples apparently does have just
such a rule. (In fact, my statement was an almost word-for-word
duplication of their earlier complaint about this group's restrictions,
but you'll have to go back to my post or before to see that, since you
trimmed it from your post.)
 

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