A Mascot...

[Mayuresh Kathe]

Hi,

I've been doing a lot of miscellaneous reading and thinking about Ruby.
This is in addition to the process of learning the language itself.

It occurred to me that while Ruby probably has a logo (the ruby gem
itself) it doesn't have a mascot.

I've done some reading of past posts on the topic of a Ruby mascot,
but somehow nothing has come to pass.

A mascot is quite important, it serves as an identity to let people
become visually creative.
Take for example the BSD Demon (Chuck), the Linux Penguin (Tux), The
Darwin Platypus (Hexley).

Can we ask a graphics designer to develop a mascot for us?
One such artist who comes to mind quickly is Jon Hooper, the guy who
developed Hexley (http://www.hexley.com/).
If we ask nicely, maybe he would do it for us.

~Mayuresh

 

[Phlip]

It occurred to me that while Ruby probably has a logo (the ruby gem
itself) it doesn't have a mascot.

Yay! Another reason Ruby Rules!!!

 

[Mayuresh Kathe]

Yay! Another reason Ruby Rules!!!

 

[Michal Suchanek]

From the last discussion on this topic I got the impression that the
reason for this is very pragmatic: there is little hope that a mascot
that appeals to both Asian people and Western people could be found.

Looking, for example, at the Chinese Olympics merchandise I guess I
can understand some of the reasons behind this disagreement.

Thanks

Michal

 

[Mayuresh Kathe]

Clinton, what's your opinion about http://www.hexley.com/

Which is why a great graphic designer could come up with something that works well in both worlds. It's possible, but you wouldn't want someone from either side making something that only works for their side of the world.

I'm with the mascot crowd here. I'm a big fan of ruby, but it's much harder to get attached to a symbol like the ruby. Personifying ANY language with a mascot makes it more fun.

Plus, stuffed animals for the kids.

- Clinton

-----Original Message-----
From: (e-mail address removed) [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Michal Suchanek
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 9:07 AM
To: ruby-talk ML
Subject: Re: A Mascot...

From the last discussion on this topic I got the impression that the
reason for this is very pragmatic: there is little hope that a mascot
that appeals to both Asian people and Western people could be found.

Looking, for example, at the Chinese Olympics merchandise I guess I
can understand some of the reasons behind this disagreement.

Thanks

Michal

 

[Marcelo Junior]

What do you think of a minerador?

 

[Marcelo Junior]

What do you think of a minerador?

minerador = miner

 

[Robert Dober]

Yay! Another reason Ruby Rules!!!

Amen
R.

 

[Clinton D. Judy]

I think it looks cute. It's easy to identify with. My only gripe would
be how loosely Hexley is tied with the BSD Devil; I think that would
need to be either stronger, or just non-existant. But I don't use Darwin
OS, so...

Does Perl, C, or Smalltalk have a mascot? I'm trying to come up with
starting points. In any case, a cute animal of some kind would be a
winner here.

-----Original Message-----
From: Mayuresh Kathe [mailto:[email protected]]=20
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 9:17 AM
To: ruby-talk ML
Subject: Re: A Mascot...

Clinton, what's your opinion about http://www.hexley.com/

Which is why a great graphic designer could come up with something

that works well in both worlds. It's possible, but you wouldn't want
someone from either side making something that only works for their side
of the world.

I'm with the mascot crowd here. I'm a big fan of ruby, but it's much

harder to get attached to a symbol like the ruby. Personifying ANY
language with a mascot makes it more fun.

Plus, stuffed animals for the kids.

- Clinton

-----Original Message-----
From: (e-mail address removed) [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Michal Suchanek
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 9:07 AM
To: ruby-talk ML
Subject: Re: A Mascot...

From the last discussion on this topic I got the impression that the
reason for this is very pragmatic: there is little hope that a mascot
that appeals to both Asian people and Western people could be found.

Looking, for example, at the Chinese Olympics merchandise I guess I
can understand some of the reasons behind this disagreement.

Thanks

Michal

 

[Mayuresh Kathe]

The likeliness to the BSD Devil is intentional, Darwin uses a lot of BSD code.
The Darwin kernel (Mach) is mostly pure, but the tools and utils layer
is all BSD.
Similarly, Hexley is basically the Platypus, but one *wearing* and
*bearing* the horned hat and trident.

Perl has the camel.
C and Smalltalk were created in those days when people weren't so much
interested in mascots

Should I talk with Jon Hooper, the creator of Hexley?
Or should I wait till we have enough momentum from the list members?

I think it looks cute. It's easy to identify with. My only gripe would
be how loosely Hexley is tied with the BSD Devil; I think that would
need to be either stronger, or just non-existant. But I don't use Darwin
OS, so...

Does Perl, C, or Smalltalk have a mascot? I'm trying to come up with
starting points. In any case, a cute animal of some kind would be a
winner here.

-----Original Message-----
From: Mayuresh Kathe [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 9:17 AM
To: ruby-talk ML
Subject: Re: A Mascot...

Clinton, what's your opinion about http://www.hexley.com/

Which is why a great graphic designer could come up with something

that works well in both worlds. It's possible, but you wouldn't want
someone from either side making something that only works for their side
of the world.

I'm with the mascot crowd here. I'm a big fan of ruby, but it's much

harder to get attached to a symbol like the ruby. Personifying ANY
language with a mascot makes it more fun.

Plus, stuffed animals for the kids.

- Clinton

-----Original Message-----
From: (e-mail address removed) [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Michal Suchanek
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 9:07 AM
To: ruby-talk ML
Subject: Re: A Mascot...

Mayuresh Kathe wrote:

It occurred to me that while Ruby probably has a logo (the ruby gem
itself) it doesn't have a mascot.

Yay! Another reason Ruby Rules!!!

From the last discussion on this topic I got the impression that the
reason for this is very pragmatic: there is little hope that a mascot
that appeals to both Asian people and Western people could be found.

Looking, for example, at the Chinese Olympics merchandise I guess I
can understand some of the reasons behind this disagreement.

Thanks

Michal

 

[David A. Black]

Hi --

The likeliness to the BSD Devil is intentional, Darwin uses a lot of BSD code.
The Darwin kernel (Mach) is mostly pure, but the tools and utils layer
is all BSD.
Similarly, Hexley is basically the Platypus, but one *wearing* and
*bearing* the horned hat and trident.

Perl has the camel.
C and Smalltalk were created in those days when people weren't so much
interested in mascots

Should I talk with Jon Hooper, the creator of Hexley?
Or should I wait till we have enough momentum from the list members?

You should talk to Matz. There's no official Ruby mascot unless Matz
chooses one or delegates someone to do so. And, mercifully, he has so
far done neither


David

 

[Clinton D. Judy]

Definitely get more momentum. Looks like 2 for mascot, 5+ against so
far.

Can I hear some defined reasons why people don't like a mascot? Don't
know why a lack of a mascot makes Ruby much better...

-----Original Message-----
From: Mayuresh Kathe [mailto:[email protected]]=20
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 9:49 AM
To: ruby-talk ML
Subject: Re: A Mascot...

The likeliness to the BSD Devil is intentional, Darwin uses a lot of BSD
code.
The Darwin kernel (Mach) is mostly pure, but the tools and utils layer
is all BSD.
Similarly, Hexley is basically the Platypus, but one *wearing* and
*bearing* the horned hat and trident.

Perl has the camel.
C and Smalltalk were created in those days when people weren't so much
interested in mascots

Should I talk with Jon Hooper, the creator of Hexley?
Or should I wait till we have enough momentum from the list members?

I think it looks cute. It's easy to identify with. My only gripe would
be how loosely Hexley is tied with the BSD Devil; I think that would
need to be either stronger, or just non-existant. But I don't use Darwin
OS, so...

Does Perl, C, or Smalltalk have a mascot? I'm trying to come up with
starting points. In any case, a cute animal of some kind would be a
winner here.

-----Original Message-----
From: Mayuresh Kathe [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 9:17 AM
To: ruby-talk ML
Subject: Re: A Mascot...

Clinton, what's your opinion about http://www.hexley.com/

Which is why a great graphic designer could come up with something

that works well in both worlds. It's possible, but you wouldn't want
someone from either side making something that only works for their side
of the world.

I'm with the mascot crowd here. I'm a big fan of ruby, but it's much

harder to get attached to a symbol like the ruby. Personifying ANY
language with a mascot makes it more fun.

Plus, stuffed animals for the kids.

- Clinton

-----Original Message-----
From: (e-mail address removed) [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Michal Suchanek
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 9:07 AM
To: ruby-talk ML
Subject: Re: A Mascot...

Mayuresh Kathe wrote:

It occurred to me that while Ruby probably has a logo (the ruby gem
itself) it doesn't have a mascot.

Yay! Another reason Ruby Rules!!!

From the last discussion on this topic I got the impression that the
reason for this is very pragmatic: there is little hope that a mascot
that appeals to both Asian people and Western people could be found.

Looking, for example, at the Chinese Olympics merchandise I guess I
can understand some of the reasons behind this disagreement.

Thanks

Michal

 

[Tim Hunter]

Definitely get more momentum. Looks like 2 for mascot, 5+ against so
far.

Can I hear some defined reasons why people don't like a mascot? Don't
know why a lack of a mascot makes Ruby much better...

If we're gonna have a mascot, can it be one of those guys that dresses
up in a foam rubber suit and dances around during a game? Otherwise I'd
just as soon not have one.

 

[Chris Lowis]

If we're gonna have a mascot, can it be one of those guys that dresses

up in a foam rubber suit and dances around during a game? Otherwise I'd
just as soon not have one.

And gets into fights with other mascots ? +1

Chris

 

[Marc Heiler]

I suggest a lobster as mascot.

 

[Clinton D. Judy]

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[Michael Libby]

I suggest a lobster as mascot.

I'd like to suggest a miner (you know, a pick-axe toting miner). Maybe
a younger one, so it could be a minor miner. Or maybe a pick-axe
toting baby Myna bird. Then it's a minor miner Myna.

-Michael

 

[Pablo Q.]

[Note: parts of this message were removed to make it a legal post.]

I think that we must use a kind of artificial animal, like dogs. I mean, an
animal made by human beings because Ruby is for me like the first
programming language that actually speaks like human and has an human
behavior (able to says stuff in different ways).

 

[Gregory Brown]

Hi --



You should talk to Matz. There's no official Ruby mascot unless Matz
chooses one or delegates someone to do so. And, mercifully, he has so
far done neither

I vaguely recall some creepy post on RubyTalk with someone asking for
a high resolution photo of Matz suitable for hanging on a wall.
If we have a mascot, I vote for a Matzcot*.

-greg

(*) Which of course, is completely a joke. I am very thankful we
don't have a mascot, Ruby isn't a high school football team.

 

[Michal Suchanek]

I vaguely recall some creepy post on RubyTalk with someone asking for
a high resolution photo of Matz suitable for hanging on a wall.
If we have a mascot, I vote for a Matzcot*.

-greg

(*) Which of course, is completely a joke. I am very thankful we
don't have a mascot, Ruby isn't a high school football team.

It looks like mascots are in general out of fashion these says. Even
NetBSD which had a fine demon for a long time went to a bland flag :-S

Michal