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Tim Ward said:Yes. On this newsgroup some people don't make you welcome unless you say C++
is crap.
*I'm* certainly *not* one of those people.
Tim Ward said:Yes. On this newsgroup some people don't make you welcome unless you say C++
is crap.
Frank said:
I just said I like C++ more than Java. I didn't say Java was crap. I
like Java, too. And I gave reasons for my opinion. Did I do something
wrong?
Loco said:i think we're already in agreement. i was replying to a message about
efficient code for things like apps. i don't put that in the same
category as knowing sql. no doubt that you need to know everything
your sql statement will end up doing. "whats important is your
understanding of sql and making your code easy to read and modify."
and i never went to the old "microsoft throw more hardware to it". my
assertion is that the fastest most efficient code for front end apps
is irrelevant. i'll take easier to read and modify over that any
day(to a degree of course).
Sudsy said:But why complain that Java doesn't have something that C++ does?
Would you prefer that Java have operator overloading?
Would it
make life somehow better for the majority of Java programmers?
A language is what it is.
Timo said:I would, if it were done well.
It is now, but languages evolve.
Frank said:I still like C++ more than Java, because Java is not as mature as C++
yet. Java is somewhat limited in its syntax (e.g. operators cannot be
overloaded).
Yes. On this newsgroup some people don't make you welcome unless you say C++
is crap.
You HAVE to use C++ for any platform-specific code. You really have
no other choice. Even if you wanted to do your platform-specific
stuff in ADA you would need some horrendous JNI/C++/ADA glue.
also the easiest to read.
But the original question was whether learning C/C++ was a prereq
for learning Java. My concern was that people versed in those
languages (particularly C++) might actually find it more difficult
to learn Java. Too much baggage, too many complaints about how
Java doesn't have this and can't do that...
If you learn it from scratch then you don't have to concern
yourself with such issues. But then we get programmers migrating
from VB who bemoan the lack of a drag-and-drop workspace...
<sigh/>
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