How to stop these bluddy spammers...

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Jack.Thomson.v3

Hi friends,

This is really irritating to see these spams in a C language group.
How to stop these bluddy spammers...
I'm sorry for posting this, but how to stop these bluddy spammers...
 
M

Mark Bluemel

Hi friends,

This is really irritating to see these spams in a C language group.
How to stop these bluddy spammers...
I'm sorry for posting this, but how to stop these bluddy spammers...

Use a proper newsreader and a good newserver - which will filter the
posts - rather than Google Groups.
 
S

santosh

Hi friends,

This is really irritating to see these spams in a C language group.
How to stop these bluddy spammers...
I'm sorry for posting this, but how to stop these bluddy spammers...

A good newsserver like aioe.org or motzarella.org (to name but two),
filter out many of these spam posts. The two servers mentioned above
are free, though the latter requires a registration. Other commercial
services like giganews, supernews also exist. Your ISP may also provide
access to an NNTP server though that's getting rare these days.
 
D

Default User

Hi friends,

This is really irritating to see these spams in a C language group.
How to stop these bluddy spammers...
I'm sorry for posting this, but how to stop these bluddy spammers...

Mostly Google is responsible for allowing the spam to enter in the
first place, so perhaps it's appropriate that their newsreader doesn't
allow any filtering. Complain to them.

As the others have said, many good news services filter at the server.
I use the http://news.individual.net provider, which while not free is
inexpensive and 10 euro/year.

A good newsreader with advanced filtering of its own is a big help too.





Brian
 
O

osmium

Default User said:
Mostly Google is responsible for allowing the spam to enter in the
first place, so perhaps it's appropriate that their newsreader doesn't
allow any filtering. Complain to them.

As the others have said, many good news services filter at the server.
I use the http://news.individual.net provider, which while not free is
inexpensive and 10 euro/year.

So you are suggesting that individual.net filters out the people that Google
blithely allows to shittify Usemet? Why then, do I see this Google
sponsored effluvia every day? After all, I use individual.net.
 
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Default User

osmium said:
So you are suggesting that individual.net filters out the people that
Google blithely allows to shittify Usemet?

Oh yes. Lots. Look at a busy group with GG some time.
Why then, do I see this
Google sponsored effluvia every day? After all, I use individual.net.

You saw spam on clc today? Which ones? I didn't see any, but I may have
snagged them with my own filters. I constantly update those. XanaNews
has pretty good filtering capability.




Brian
 
C

CBFalconer

This is really irritating to see these spams in a C language
group. How to stop these bluddy spammers... I'm sorry for
posting this, but how to stop these bluddy spammers...

Start by getting a real newsreader. Thunderbird works on Windoze,
Linux, Macs, and more. Then connect to a good news server, which
may (or may not) filter out some spams. Then organize your own
filters behind all this.

Google is a newsreader, but not a good one. It also functions as
its own news server, but not a good one (from the spam viewpoint).

As an example, today I downloaded about 70 messages on c.l.c.
About 50 more were rejected by my filters, and never even
transmitted to me.
 
I

Ian Collins

Default said:
You saw spam on clc today? Which ones? I didn't see any, but I may have
snagged them with my own filters. I constantly update those. XanaNews
has pretty good filtering capability.
The Usenet spammers are getting smarter, they post to individual group
rather than cross posting. This makes it harder for the servers to spot
them.
 
D

Default User

Ian said:
The Usenet spammers are getting smarter, they post to individual group
rather than cross posting. This makes it harder for the servers to
spot them.

Comparing NIN results to GG results, for high traffic groups (I haven't
looked there at clc) I'd say that it's still doable. Of course, for me
to really tell I'd have to disable my filters and killfile.




Brian
 
I

Ian Collins

Default said:
Comparing NIN results to GG results, for high traffic groups (I haven't
looked there at clc) I'd say that it's still doable. Of course, for me
to really tell I'd have to disable my filters and killfile.
Check your logs. I try and filter all spam at the sever level (in
thunderbird) and killfile per group.

NIN do filter quite a bit (compared with what shows up on GG), but my
server logs are full of replica watch postings!
 
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Default User

Ian said:
Default User wrote:
Check your logs. I try and filter all spam at the sever level (in
thunderbird) and killfile per group.


XanaNews doesn't seem to log that, at least by default. Just errors.




Brian
 
P

Paulo Jorge O. C. Matos

A good newsserver like aioe.org or motzarella.org (to name but two),
filter out many of these spam posts. The two servers mentioned above are
free, though the latter requires a registration. Other commercial
services like giganews, supernews also exist. Your ISP may also provide
access to an NNTP server though that's getting rare these days.


I am using motzarella.org for example but I don't see any message
filtering. I still see handbags ads, job ads, and many other OT/spam
topics.

Either I am missing any configuration options or I need a better
newsreader. I am using Pan. Do you know any capable of filtering messages
on its own by passing messages through a spam filter? [Sorry for keeping
up with this OT but important thread, this is killing the usenet]

Cheers,

Paulo Matos
 
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osmium

Default User said:
Oh yes. Lots. Look at a busy group with GG some time.


You saw spam on clc today? Which ones? I didn't see any, but I may have
snagged them with my own filters. I constantly update those. XanaNews
has pretty good filtering capability.

I saw several of them on the C++ group today. They were for shoes, those
and watches seem the most common. 99% of these problems could be solved by
Google forcing people to type in something displayed on a screen in order
to establish the ability to post. Google is almost invariably involved in
these spams, but they seem to have more money than God now, and no longer
any interest in WTF they are doing.

The old saying about "power corrupts" is certainly borne out by Google.
 
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Anand Hariharan

Hi friends,

This is really irritating to see these spams in a C language group.
How to stop these bluddy spammers...
I'm sorry for posting this, but how to stop these bluddy spammers...

[OT]
Would one (or more) of you consider posting your filter files? Or
providing a link to someone who's uploaded them? Doesn't matter whether
they are meant for slrn or pan or any other newsreader -- am just
interested in the REs to filter them out. It took me quite sometime to
get rid of the "MI5 Prosecution" posts.
[/OT]

thank you,
- Anand
 
R

Richard

Anand Hariharan said:
Hi friends,

This is really irritating to see these spams in a C language group.
How to stop these bluddy spammers...
I'm sorry for posting this, but how to stop these bluddy spammers...

[OT]
Would one (or more) of you consider posting your filter files? Or
providing a link to someone who's uploaded them? Doesn't matter whether
they are meant for slrn or pan or any other newsreader -- am just
interested in the REs to filter them out. It took me quite sometime to
get rid of the "MI5 Prosecution" posts.
[/OT]

thank you,
- Anand

Use a decent news reader with a killfile one key press. That way you wont
risk kill filing decent posters.
 
C

CBFalconer

Anand said:
Jack.Thomson.v3 said:
This is really irritating to see these spams in a C language group.
How to stop these bluddy spammers...
I'm sorry for posting this, but how to stop these bluddy spammers...

[OT]
Would one (or more) of you consider posting your filter files? Or
providing a link to someone who's uploaded them? Doesn't matter
whether they are meant for slrn or pan or any other newsreader --
am just interested in the REs to filter them out. It took me quite
sometime to get rid of the "MI5 Prosecution" posts.
[/OT]

It won't help, because filters are different on each news reader.
The following is an extract from my c.l.c. filters. It is a short
portion, and contains only thread plonks (I keep thread plonks at
the beginning, personal plonks at the end, for my own
convenience). Filters start at each 'name=' heading. The whole
c.l.c filter contains 428 lines today, for 71 plonks.

Also, publishing personal plonks could have legal difficulties.

version="6"
logging="yes"
name="accept my own posts"
enabled="yes"
description=""
type="4"
action="Watch thread"
condition=" OR (from,contains,cbfalconer)"
name="(thread) How do debuggers work"
enabled="yes"
description=""
type="4"
action="Mark read"
condition=" OR (subject,contains,How do debuggers work)"
name="(thread) Why are variables stored on the stack"
enabled="yes"
description=""
type="4"
action="Mark read"
condition=" OR (subject,contains,variables stored on the stack)"
name="(thread) bunch of pedants"
enabled="yes"
description=""
type="4"
action="Mark read"
condition=" OR (subject,contains,bunch of pedants)"
name="(thread) Hii.. Friends"
enabled="yes"
description=""
type="4"
action="Mark read"
condition=" OR (subject,contains,Hii.. Friends)"
 
D

Default User

osmium said:
:

I saw several of them on the C++ group today. They were for shoes,
those and watches seem the most common.

Ah. Other groups were hit with those in the past, I already have
filters for those.
99% of these problems could
be solved by Google forcing people to type in something displayed on
a screen in order to establish the ability to post. Google is almost
invariably involved in these spams, but they seem to have more money
than God now, and no longer any interest in WTF they are doing.

Somewhere along the line, "Don't be evil" got losticated. At least for
poor old usenet.




Brian
 
D

Default User

Paulo said:
Either I am missing any configuration options or I need a better
newsreader. I am using Pan. Do you know any capable of filtering
messages on its own by passing messages through a spam filter? [Sorry
for keeping up with this OT but important thread, this is killing the
usenet]

I personally consider this to be meta-topical. Which OS do you need a
newsreader for? I'm not familiar with Pan.




Brian
 
D

Default User

Anand said:
[OT]
Would one (or more) of you consider posting your filter files? Or
providing a link to someone who's uploaded them? Doesn't matter
whether they are meant for slrn or pan or any other newsreader -- am
just interested in the REs to filter them out. It took me quite
sometime to get rid of the "MI5 Prosecution" posts.
[/OT]

Unfortunately, XanaNews doesn't really provide a way to do that.
Filters are handled through a GUI interface, and there's no text file
result.




Brian
 

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