Java 1.3 for mac

[clemenr]

Dear all,

is it still possible to download older versions of the JDK for the mac
which will run on Panther. 1.3 would be fine.

Thanks in anticipation,

Ross-c

 

[Andrew Thompson]

is it still possible to download older versions of the JDK for the mac
which will run on Panther. 1.3 would be fine.

Looks like it..
<http://www.apple.com/support/downloads/java.html>
"It contains support for both Java 1.4.1 and Java 1.3.1."

 

[Scott Ellsworth]

is it still possible to download older versions of the JDK for the mac
which will run on Panther. 1.3 would be fine.

Reinstall Panther - IIRC, Java 1.3 came with it.

Beware, of course, that 1.3 will be going away with the Intel
transition, so if you are doing new development, make sure it works with
1.4 or 1.5 on Tiger.

Scott

 

[Roedy Green]

Beware, of course, that 1.3 will be going away with the Intel
transition, so if you are doing new development, make sure it works with
1.4 or 1.5 on Tiger.

What is this about. Is Apple abandoning the PowerPC?

 

[Dag Sunde]

What is this about. Is Apple abandoning the PowerPC?

Oh yes!

In one of the best 1 hour sales stunts I've seen, Steve jobs presented
the changeover, and revealed that the transistion will be complete
within the next 24 months. (In front of an audience packed with die-hard
mac developers and designers, (and he walked off the stage alice and
kickin').

;-)

The OS, most of the core apps and developer tools already runs smoothly
on standard Intel hardware. Complete with emulator for those apps that
isn't ported yet.

 

[Roedy Green]

In one of the best 1 hour sales stunts I've seen, Steve jobs presented
the changeover, and revealed that the transistion will be complete
within the next 24 months. (In front of an audience packed with die-hard
mac developers and designers, (and he walked off the stage alice and
kickin').

Sounds like White Box NeXT again. Is he leaving the hardware business
and going to tackle Windows head on?

That's too bad. The PowerPC is a beautiful architecture compared with
the Pentium.

 

[Roedy Green]

Sounds like White Box NeXT again. Is he leaving the hardware business
and going to tackle Windows head on?

That's too bad. The PowerPC is a beautiful architecture compared with
the Pentium.

I suppose though it all goes well there will eventually three choices
of OS on your PC.

Is Apple planning on becoming primarily an OS company?

 

[Scott Ellsworth]

He claimed that we would see the first new machines by the next WWDC,
and would have a complete transition by the end of 2007.

Sounds like White Box NeXT again. Is he leaving the hardware business
and going to tackle Windows head on?

Doubtful. It appears that they intend to continue shipping
Apple-branded hardware, but running Intel chips.

As far as tackling Windows head on, there has been one benefit.
Formerly, if I claimed performance differences between OS X and Windows
or Linux, the bug would often be ignored. They now are getting
attention, as the exact same machine can run both Linux and Windows, as
well as the MacOS.

I know the Java group has gotten some performance pressure in areas
where their JDK was slower than the Sun one on the same hardware.

That's too bad. The PowerPC is a beautiful architecture compared with
the Pentium.

Yeah, but it was getting kinda clear that IBM was having trouble
producing appropriate portable chips. G5s are speedy, but very hot.
With the current Powerbook is getting long in the tooth, and with the
competition getting longer battery life, they had to do something.

I will miss altivec - here is to hoping that SSE4, or whatever they call
it come the day, will learn from what altivec did right.

Whether that justifies the expense of a switch is a different argument.

Scott