Just what is "Ajax" ???

[hazemtorab]

To know more about ajax visit http://www.ajaxprojects.com
it's a directory about ajax

 

[Stan McCann]

Obviously I did not explain clearly what I meant. Ajax and
alternative technologies are not intended for _you_. All the sites
you need to use and who want you to visit will work with Javascript
turned off.

A rich web client is necessary when users need to use a web based
application extensively for their day-to-day work. Have a look at
http://www.salesforce.com/. A large company could afford to install
a Customer Relationship Management system using, say, a virtual
private network and a thick client. Salesforce.com provides similar
performance using their servers and only a web browser installed on
the users machine. Similar applications are being developed for
in-house applications because the network is simpler to maintain and
they are much easier to deploy.

I was reading your previous message as that Ajax is yet another
language for web developers to try to "take control" of the browsing
environment. I also read yesterday about another scripting method
client side through an FF extension that can rewrite poor HTML, CSS,
and scripting? I don't remember what it is called just now, but it
piqued my interest enough that it deserves a further look.

Somebody in this group (you?) provided the link. Interesting stuff.

 

[Stan McCann]

(I'm not disagreeing that even with the bells and whistles added, a
general web site should also function without Javascript. I'm just
reacting to your above remark.)

Noted. Taken by itself, yes, that certainly is a broad statement.
Point taken, I've been around long enough to know that all of what you
mentioned has changed (very quickly) with time.

My point (maybe not too clear?) was that I'll unplug my computers from
the network for security reasons before letting just anyone anywhere
run programs on my computers BEFORE I know something about how the
programs work, what they are supposed to do, etc. To not do so, is
asking for virus, spyware, and who knows what next infestations.
Because that is one of the things you didn't mention the advances of.

Not that I think you are in favor of such infestations. I hope that I
have correctly interpreted your point.

 

[Allis]

I was reading your previous message as that Ajax is yet another
language for web developers to try to "take control" of the browsing
environment. I also read yesterday about another scripting method
client side through an FF extension that can rewrite poor HTML, CSS,
and scripting? I don't remember what it is called just now, but it
piqued my interest enough that it deserves a further look.

Somebody in this group (you?) provided the link. Interesting stuff.

Here's a read.
http://www.ajaxprojects.com/index.php
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AJAX
http://adaptivepath.com/publications/essays/archives/000385.php


SmakDaddy
http://themooseisloose.net

 

[Toby Inkster]

I also read yesterday about another scripting method client side
through an FF extension that can rewrite poor HTML, CSS, and scripting?

The GreaseMonkey extension for Mozilla Firefox.

Opera 8+ also has a similar feature (built in -- no extension required)
called "user javascript".

http://greasemonkey.mozdev.org/
http://www.opera.com/support/tutorials/userjs/

 

[Stan McCann]

The GreaseMonkey extension for Mozilla Firefox.

That's the one! Sort of a take back control of your browser the way I
read it. Interesting stuff.

 

[Harlan Messinger]

My point (maybe not too clear?) was that I'll unplug my computers from
the network for security reasons before letting just anyone anywhere
run programs on my computers BEFORE I know something about how the
programs work, what they are supposed to do, etc. To not do so, is
asking for virus, spyware, and who knows what next infestations.
Because that is one of the things you didn't mention the advances of.

Not that I think you are in favor of such infestations. I hope that I
have correctly interpreted your point.

Yes. I am not trying to get you to lower your defenses! (I am not a virus.)