professional versus amatuer "look"?

[Toby A Inkster]

I mean, this alt.html, right? It's not, alt.html.professional, and it's
not, alt.html.amateur.
Do either of those groups exist on other servers?
IF not? Perhaps they should?

Tonnes of groups go down the route of fragmenting into "experts" and
"newbies" groups, but it's the newbies who tend to lose out as the experts
don't read the newbie groups so when a newbie asks a tough question,
no-one knows the answer.

 

[Whitecrest]

Though the lack of Internet porn concerns me greatly as well? ....
While perusing this thread, I couldn't help but notice that nobody's
mentioned what in my opinion is the most horrendous of all amateur gaffes;
The dreaded, imbeded, MIDI.

Yea, that one is pretty bad.

 

[Whitecrest]

Tonnes of groups go down the route of fragmenting into "experts" and
"newbies" groups, but it's the newbies who tend to lose out as the experts
don't read the newbie groups so when a newbie asks a tough question,
no-one knows the answer.

The problem with Expert groups is you get "experts" that have their eyes
closed to everything but what they belive in. So they yell at you and
call you names if you don't agree with them. Much like this group.

Right Toby?

 

[Davmagic .Com]

From: (e-mail address removed) (RGH)
Hello All:
I am professor trying to work on some
class materials for college students
criticizing Web designs.
Its seems to be that there is a real
difference between a ...professional...
looking Web page and an ...amateur...
looking one. But its hard to put my finger
on what exactly the differences are.

You are not comparing apples to apples here...

A website can be "Professional" to one individual and "Amateurish" to
another...

If you agree on a set of standards, then you can work towards that for a
comparison...

The W3C offers it's standards but many designers stray far from it...

The "Look" of a website is only one small factor in judging it's overall
quality...

If it is accessible to most browsers, functions correctly as far as
proper coding goes, navigates easily and accurately, and provides good
and accurate up-to-date information... then I would call it a
"Professional" website...

They come in all the colors of the rainbow!!!

As far as it's being a "Successful" website... that's another story.....

Web Design, Magic, Painting, Junking, More
http://www.davmagic.com
Paint A House
http://www.paintahouse.com
NOTE: This emailbox is CLOSED do NOT reply!!!

 

[Andy Dingley]

Its seems to be that there is a real difference between a ³professional²
looking Web page and an ³amateur² looking one.

The difference is evident to me too.

As a professional web person who also makes personal pages as an
amateur, then I'd say the differences in my personal context are:

Professional:

Advertising. An over-supply of stroboscopic eye candy, to a level that
can induce an epileptic fit at 20 paces.

Content is near invisible (see comment on advertising)

Slavish and mindless compliance to some pointless corporate standard,
thought up by some marketing muppet.

No metadata, no search, poor navigation

Easy access (time and people) to graphic designers, so image work is
of high quality.

Amateur:

Content. Why else would I be doing this ?

Obsessive compliance with technical standards, in case anyone from
c.i.w.a.h ever finds it.

Metadata. No search - that's what Google is for.

Minimal graphics. I haven't got the time to fool around.

Incomplete !

 

[nice.guy.nige]

The problem with Expert groups is you get "experts" that have their
eyes closed to everything but what they belive in. So they yell at
you and call you names if you don't agree with them. Much like this
group.

Oh no we don't! ........ yer bastard! ;-)

Cheers,
Nige

--
Nigel Moss.

Email address is not valid. (e-mail address removed). Take the dog out!
http://www.nigenet.org.uk | Boycott E$$O!! http://www.stopesso.com
In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is very, very busy!

 

[Mark Parnell]

Oh no we don't! ........ yer bastard! ;-)

You forgot the YELLING!

 

[Whitecrest]

Oh no we don't! ........ yer bastard! ;-)

Even with it's quirks, this group is one of the more informative around.

 

[The Doormouse]

Sometimes folks like me just want some dopey little tips, for our dopey
little websites. And that's why I lurk.

:.)

You made me remember what it was like when I just started making websites
.... and how much fun it can be! Every page doesn't need XML or CSS or any
of that stuff. Sometimes, "dopey" is perfect.

The Doormouse

 

[Inger Helene Falch-Jacobsen]

The difference is evident to me too.

As a professional web person who also makes personal pages as an
amateur, then I'd say the differences in my personal context are:

Professional:

Advertising. An over-supply of stroboscopic eye candy, to a level that
can induce an epileptic fit at 20 paces.

Content is near invisible (see comment on advertising)

Slavish and mindless compliance to some pointless corporate standard,
thought up by some marketing muppet.

No metadata, no search, poor navigation

Easy access (time and people) to graphic designers, so image work is
of high quality.

Amateur:

Content. Why else would I be doing this ?

Obsessive compliance with technical standards, in case anyone from
c.i.w.a.h ever finds it.

Metadata. No search - that's what Google is for.

Really? Are all your pages indexed by Google?

Minimal graphics. I haven't got the time to fool around.

Incomplete !

Always "under construction" - but never using those words!

I think you have an important point here: An amateur doesn't have to make an
"amateurish" page, and a professional won't always make a "professional
looking" page.

 

[Kris]

Its seems to be that there is a real difference between a ³professional²
looking Web page and an ³amateur² looking one. But its hard to put my
finger on what exactly the differences are.

Professional websites are build by people who do it for a living.
Amateur websites are the ones that are not.

Now, how and why a website *appears* professional or amateurish is a
different story. This thread is already full of opinions that show light
on the distinction, so no need for me to add to that.