When the upgrade to Tiger

B

Berlin Brown

When are you upgrading your stuff to Tiger. I know a lot of you will
probably play around with, but are you planning to rewrite a majority
of your apps and server installs to work with the new java version
immediately, year, never? I see in terms of the bytecode, a majority
of it will work with 1.4 runtime and the compile time checks and code
dont look that much different.
 
I

Ike

NEVER.

The language embellishments make it too Java-centric. I want the code I
write these days to be as syntactically lowest common denominator as
possible. That is, when I write my code in Java, I want to be able to port
it to c++, php, .net with as minimal a fuss as necessary if I have to port
it.

The embellishments in 1.5 strike me as just java-fying up my code evermore.
I've learned the hard way over the decades the keep things syntactically as
lowest common denominator as possible. Change comes over and over, and we,
as programmers always have to adapt. THis should be a major tenet taught in
CS classes! -Ike
 
X

xarax

Berlin Brown said:
When are you upgrading your stuff to Tiger. I know a lot of you will
probably play around with, but are you planning to rewrite a majority
of your apps and server installs to work with the new java version
immediately, year, never? I see in terms of the bytecode, a majority
of it will work with 1.4 runtime and the compile time checks and code
dont look that much different.

My stuff is delivered in a ZIP containing "jar" files.
Can't get much simpler than that.

I will likely upgrade to 1.5 when it becomes 1.5.0_01
(meaning the first bug fix is released). I am using
NetBeans 3.6; I don't know how much it knows about the
J2SE 1.5 stuff, so I'll also wait until NetBeans has full
support for 1.5.

The features of 1.5 that I want to use immediately
are enums and generic types.

2 cents worth. Your mileage may vary.


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J

Jesper Nordenberg

Berlin Brown said:
When are you upgrading your stuff to Tiger. I know a lot of you will
probably play around with, but are you planning to rewrite a majority
of your apps and server installs to work with the new java version
immediately, year, never? I see in terms of the bytecode, a majority
of it will work with 1.4 runtime and the compile time checks and code
dont look that much different.

See:
http://groups.google.se/groups?hl=s...&lr=&ie=UTF-8&selm=41332B70.50206%40yahoo.com

/Jesper Nordenberg
 
V

Vincent Cantin

When are you upgrading your stuff to Tiger. I know a lot of you will
probably play around with, but are you planning to rewrite a majority
of your apps and server installs to work with the new java version
immediately, year, never? I see in terms of the bytecode, a majority
of it will work with 1.4 runtime and the compile time checks and code
dont look that much different.

As soon as possible, as soon as my IDE support it, since I don't want to do
without it.

The Tiger version support Metadata. This was not mediatized, but it seems to
be really usefull for everybody who wish to make tools over (and using) the
java language. With the metadata, we have the possibility to extends by
ourself the sementic of the language and to generate code from this hi-level
information.

The enum support is also very good, it makes the code more clear. I have
numbers of classes which are waiting to be adapted to it.

The genericity of Java is a real good thing. The type check is really
welcome.

.... Like a ugly fat red clown may say : "I'm lovin'it" :)
 

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