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Luc The Perverse
Roedy Green said:For me, I would hope the males would be flexible.
Oh crap - I thought I was being original
Oh crap - I thought I was being original
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Thomas Hawtin
I've found that with the two Java programmers I know, I have the least
stable friendships. And neither is particularly keen to talk about it.
In terms of numbers, one in thirteen seems to be the recurring
proportion for women electing to be involved with computers. Two out of
twenty six in my school Computer Studies class were female. Around the
same time a survey found only one in thirteen computers bought for kids
in the UK were for girls (okay, not necessarily elective). I seem to
remember the same fraction in a pre-.com survey of programmers. I
wouldn't be surprised to see the postings in this news group following
similar lines (although poster's gender is not necessarily obvious, and
possibly deliberately disguised).
OTOH, I think the variety of people becoming programmers has broadened.
Not that it was ever necessarily true that everyone involved was
interested in it. I guess conferences are viewed as male dominated
events, which I imagine puts most women off. The Association of C & C++
Users conference seems to get around one percent female attendees.
But I certainly think it would be "interesting" if there were more women
in the Computers & Programming section of Barnes & Noble. Until then, I
suppose cheap pickup lines in clubs and bars will have to do.
I shall see if my Mustang participate t-shirt wows the ladies. I suspect
I may be disappointed.
Tom Hawtin
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derek
But I certainly think it would be "interesting" if there were more women
Well, if you are already at Barnes & Noble, just head for the psychology
and/or esoteric section. Plenty of women there, to try your lines on.
in the Computers & Programming section of Barnes & Noble. Until then, I
suppose cheap pickup lines in clubs and bars will have to do.
Well, if you are already at Barnes & Noble, just head for the psychology
and/or esoteric section. Plenty of women there, to try your lines on.
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Up Yours
(e-mail address removed) wrote in @g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:
In Roedy's case, he wouldn't care if women were available or not: he "plays
for the other team". http://mindprod.com/contact/idealpartner.html.
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Up Yours
In Roedy's case, he wouldn't care if women were available or not: he "plays
for the other team". http://mindprod.com/contact/idealpartner.html.
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Up Yours
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derek
I believe that in order to /create/ a relationship, the woman
And since we are on the subject of Java & relationships
*HOW to improve your sex-appeal with a good Java program* :
First things first : get in super.Shape. Next: all your URLs should
be created with protocol "female", same with URI schemes. As a
consequence, you'll notice that your GeneralPath will lead you into
Area(s) populated heavily with public class Women.
Secondly, as the Window of opportunity tends to be very narrow,
don't lose Focus! Make sure that a lot of instances of public class
Woman have FocusTraversalPolicy set on you.
Thirdly, implement as much Listeners as possible (public class
Women like being listened to). Then you have to establish a
Connection (some PreparedStatement might come in handy),
followed by Identity. Remember that Naming.lookup() is a
great ice breaker.
After a while, you have to broaden the IdentityScope. Visit some
KeyFactory and then exchange your public Keys. Don't think you're
home free, though. GC also comes with the package. You'll also
have to learn to be a good Observer. Your Observable will like
that very much.
Further more, the trick is to use a long, Long or Big* member
(field). Put it to work in an inner Socket, preferably doing it safely
(SSLSocket). Catch all the Exceptions in all the OutputStream(s)
unless you explicitly want child Processes. Moreover, don't rely on
your average BasicStroke, you have to come up with some versatile
method(s). Extending the built-in Socket(s) with something like
Suckit(s) might also impress some public class Woman, but some
don't like using MulticastSocket(s). Speaking of which, allways
check the .getPreferred*() beforehand. Otherwise you might have
to deal with nasty Throwables, like IllegalAccessError. Also take
into account that NoSuchMethodError means NoSuchMethodError
(same for NoSuchFieldError and the analogous Exceptions).
Having dealt with all that, make sure that you close all the necessary
ports on your firewall, because InterruptedExceptions tend to be very
destructive (plus your Reference will become a SoftReference (i.e. your
RoundingMode will switch from UP to DOWN) for an indefinite period
of time).
Sooner or later you'll have to realize that the best you can do is to
make your instance of public class Woman final and static. It's not
unusual that in the process you also make it private, though protected
might also work in some cases. Of course, you'd have to say goodbye
to Swing for as long as you both shall live.
And since we are on the subject of Java & relationships
*HOW to improve your sex-appeal with a good Java program* :
First things first : get in super.Shape. Next: all your URLs should
be created with protocol "female", same with URI schemes. As a
consequence, you'll notice that your GeneralPath will lead you into
Area(s) populated heavily with public class Women.
Secondly, as the Window of opportunity tends to be very narrow,
don't lose Focus! Make sure that a lot of instances of public class
Woman have FocusTraversalPolicy set on you.
Thirdly, implement as much Listeners as possible (public class
Women like being listened to). Then you have to establish a
Connection (some PreparedStatement might come in handy),
followed by Identity. Remember that Naming.lookup() is a
great ice breaker.
After a while, you have to broaden the IdentityScope. Visit some
KeyFactory and then exchange your public Keys. Don't think you're
home free, though. GC also comes with the package. You'll also
have to learn to be a good Observer. Your Observable will like
that very much.
Further more, the trick is to use a long, Long or Big* member
(field). Put it to work in an inner Socket, preferably doing it safely
(SSLSocket). Catch all the Exceptions in all the OutputStream(s)
unless you explicitly want child Processes. Moreover, don't rely on
your average BasicStroke, you have to come up with some versatile
method(s). Extending the built-in Socket(s) with something like
Suckit(s) might also impress some public class Woman, but some
don't like using MulticastSocket(s). Speaking of which, allways
check the .getPreferred*() beforehand. Otherwise you might have
to deal with nasty Throwables, like IllegalAccessError. Also take
into account that NoSuchMethodError means NoSuchMethodError
(same for NoSuchFieldError and the analogous Exceptions).
Having dealt with all that, make sure that you close all the necessary
ports on your firewall, because InterruptedExceptions tend to be very
destructive (plus your Reference will become a SoftReference (i.e. your
RoundingMode will switch from UP to DOWN) for an indefinite period
of time).
Sooner or later you'll have to realize that the best you can do is to
make your instance of public class Woman final and static. It's not
unusual that in the process you also make it private, though protected
might also work in some cases. Of course, you'd have to say goodbye
to Swing for as long as you both shall live.
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marcwentink
Pavel:
I would find this very annoying, I would like some time for myself, not
doing everything always together with a girl?
I would find this very annoying, I would like some time for myself, not
doing everything always together with a girl?
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Mitch
My university department (Electrical, Electronic and ComputingPavel said:
Engineering) is one half of a building. The other half is filled with
the Nursing / Health Science department. They kindly put the nerds
along side all the compassionate females, which I thought was a nice touch.
Besides, I don't think I'd want my gf too interested in computers, you'd
come home only to talk over msn and when I've only written 10 lines of
code in an hour I wouldn't be able to claim that they were ten difficult
lines...
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Danno
That's a good quote
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Danno
C#?
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Gordon Beaton
Most jobs *are* open to everybody today AFAIK, although I expect it
wasn't the case when she said that,
However that doesn't change the fact that women and women tend to
choose different types of education and careers (for various complex
social reasons I won't even attempt to analyze), with the result that
men and women aren't equally represented among applicants for every
position in every field.
When I studied Computer Science around 1990, there were 3 women in my
graduating class of about 60, and among the younger classes I think
the most was about 7.
In my current department, 2 of the 5 java programmers are women while
none of the 6 C programmers are. (and who claimed in a recent thread
that employers only do one programming language?)
/gordon
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Amfur Kilnem
bugbear said:
Who is "?ôÉìåæ£Ü ?ÜææÜ¢å" ?
(Geek humor...)
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Monique Y. Mudama
Well, for one thing, the OP could be female ... and yes, being in a
field in which you're an extreme minority does complicate things,
although it's by no means impossible.
For another, there's a theory that people from different backgrounds
tend to approach problems differently and see different issues, so
lack of diversity certainly would be a problem. (Perhaps one could
say that lack of diversity would simplify things in the short run, but
complicate them in the long run.) This doesn't, of course, apply
exclusively to gender ...
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Monique Y. Mudama
An anecdote: I'd been using linux, in fact running my own linux
server as well as desktop, for several years when my brother, who was
interested but hadn't yet installed linux, asked me to join him at the
local linux user's group meeting.
It's been a while, but as I recall there were over 100 people there,
and I was one of two women.
I'll be honest; while it wasn't uncomfortable, it was a bit ... odd,
and I didn't go to another LUG meeting. Nothing bad happened to me or
anything ... and to be honest, I wasn't much into doing anything that
didn't involve EverQuest at the time. So maybe I would have gone
again if I hadn't been otherwise preoccupied.
Anyway, if I'm one woman who is into linux, software engineering, and
other "geeky" things, but doesn't go to conferences and other
gatherings, I imagine there are many others, as well.
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Monique Y. Mudama
Well, it helps to have *something* in common to start a conversation
that might eventually spawn something further.
I would also wonder about sharing all interests. I waffle on this
one. For example, I practice martial arts. My husband doesn't.
Sometimes I wish he did, so that we could practice together (in part,
yes, so that when I want to talk about martial arts, he could have
even the faintest clue what I mean). On the other hand, I've also
realized that I appreciate having something of my very own. Most of
the physical things we do together (skiing, mountain biking, etc),
he's better at. It's nice to have an activity where we're not
competing.
Yes, it would be nice if I were well-balanced enough not to see it as a
competition, but in the meantime ...
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Monique Y. Mudama
Then again you could take the approach that I did which was to show
my wife what my job was all about. I won't say that she has become
a programmer but she certainly understands when I talk to her, or
maybe I just wishfully think the "uh huh's" and "mmm's" are
agreement and understanding
Well, my husband and I both work in technical fields, but he does
assembler-level firmware, and I'm currently doing end user Java apps.
We each can understand enough of what the other's doing to sympathize,
but not to write each other's code.
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Wes Williams
Well, if you are already at Barnes & Noble, just head for the psychology
and/or esoteric section. Plenty of women there, to try your lines on.
And avoid the ones in the self-help section.
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morning_path
So, you had an evil plan from the start, eh? How Wiley E Coyote of you.
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Luc The Perverse
morning_path said:
Please try to learn to quote. It makes it much easier for the readers.
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Chris Uppal
Monique said:
It must also be a comfort, when the Love of your Life and Centre of your World
has beaten you at one of these activities, to reflect that your subtle skills
enable you to punch his spine out through the back of his neck...
-- chris
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Luc The Perverse
Chris Uppal said:
.. . . . . . .
I find you a mite more competitive in your relationships than in mine