Usability Job Opportunities

[Sanders Kaufman]

On Jan 1, 1:07 am, "Red E. Kilowatt" <[email protected]>

Believe or not the only interest behind the posting is nothing else
than provide useful information.

Hey, that was the defense one of those convicted spammers used.
He said he was providing a public information service.
Too bad for him, the judge didn't go for it.

 

[Bergamot]

[spam about] Consulting and teaching positions:
...
Recruiting Manager
Human Factors International

Believe or not the only interest behind the posting is nothing else
than provide useful information.

What makes HFI's job openings different or more useful than the other
zillion job postings out there? You aren't going to spam Usenet with all
of them, are you?

 

[Harlan Messinger]

Of coruse it is. You did read the charters and/or FAQs of the groups
you posted to in order to check that advertising was permissible there
before posting, didn't you?

No, you didn't. And how do I know you didn't? Because at least one of
the groups you posted to forbids advertising. So in at least one of
the groups your post was unsolicited advertising.

"Solicited" doesn't mean "permitted". The posting was *unsolicited* in
*all* the newsgroups. That is, unless some participant in all these
newsgroups contacted this person beforehand and requested, "Hey, could
you please post an ad for some service?"

 

[RafaMinu]

[spam about] Consulting and teaching positions:
...
Recruiting Manager
Human Factors International

Believe or not the only interest behind the posting is nothing else
than provide useful information.

What makes HFI's job openings different or more useful than the other
zillion job postings out there? You aren't going to spam Usenet with all
of them, are you?

The very nature of the job offered is what makes it different.
It's all about accessibility and usability. A most interesting topic
and related to ALL Groups posted.
I just wish this thread would focus on that topic.
If you want to discuss about SPAM, then you should focus your
attention to the hundreds of SPAM messages posted on this Group on a
regular basis.

 

[Jerry Stuckle]

[spam about] Consulting and teaching positions:
...
Recruiting Manager
Human Factors International
Believe or not the only interest behind the posting is nothing else
than provide useful information.

What makes HFI's job openings different or more useful than the other
zillion job postings out there? You aren't going to spam Usenet with all
of them, are you?

The very nature of the job offered is what makes it different.
It's all about accessibility and usability. A most interesting topic
and related to ALL Groups posted.
I just wish this thread would focus on that topic.
If you want to discuss about SPAM, then you should focus your
attention to the hundreds of SPAM messages posted on this Group on a
regular basis.

No, it doesn't. There are zillions of other job postings of similar types.

You're just a spammer. Nothing more, nothing less.

And we're not talking about other spammers. We're talking about YOU.

We are focusing on the topic - YOUR SPAM.

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Jerry Stuckle
JDS Computer Training Corp.
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[RafaMinu]

RafaMinu wrote:
[spam about] Consulting and teaching positions:
...
Recruiting Manager
Human Factors International
Believe or not the only interest behind the posting is nothing else
than provide useful information.
What makes HFI's job openings different or more useful than the other
zillion job postings out there? You aren't going to spam Usenet with all
of them, are you?

The very nature of the job offered is what makes it different.
It's all about accessibility and usability. A most interesting topic
and related to ALL Groups posted.
I just wish this thread would focus on that topic.
If you want to discuss about SPAM, then you should focus your
attention to the hundreds of SPAM messages posted on this Group on a
regular basis.

No, it doesn't.  There are zillions of other job postings of similar types.

Untrue.
Show me just one.

You're just a spammer.  Nothing more, nothing less.

And we're not talking about other spammers.  We're talking about YOU.

We are focusing on the topic - YOUR SPAM.

Wrong.
The topic I started is about accesibilty job openings.
Alternatively I offered some advice to a novel musician.
Your replies are the ones that are utterly off-topic and not welcomed.
If you are interested in SPAM, I suggest you stay away from this
thread and get into one of the zillion SPAM messages available
somewhere else.

 

[KarlCore]

[spam about] Consulting and teaching positions:
...
Recruiting Manager
Human Factors International
Believe or not the only interest behind the posting is nothing else
than provide useful information.

What makes HFI's job openings different or more useful than the other
zillion job postings out there? You aren't going to spam Usenet with all
of them, are you?

The very nature of the job offered is what makes it different.
It's all about accessibility and usability. A most interesting topic
and related to ALL Groups posted.

Then why didn't you post this message in comp.human-factors? Why
didn't you cross-post it to any of the many software development
newsgroups? Why only comp.lang.php? Why not any of the Java or ASP
newsgroups?

Since I personally know some of the people at HFI, I'll be sure to let
them know about your posts.

Karl

 

[Jerry Stuckle]

RafaMinu wrote:
[spam about] Consulting and teaching positions:
...
Recruiting Manager
Human Factors International
Believe or not the only interest behind the posting is nothing else
than provide useful information.
What makes HFI's job openings different or more useful than the other
zillion job postings out there? You aren't going to spam Usenet with all
of them, are you?
The very nature of the job offered is what makes it different.
It's all about accessibility and usability. A most interesting topic
and related to ALL Groups posted.
I just wish this thread would focus on that topic.
If you want to discuss about SPAM, then you should focus your
attention to the hundreds of SPAM messages posted on this Group on a
regular basis.

No, it doesn't. There are zillions of other job postings of similar types.

Untrue.
Show me just one.

Just google. You'll find them all over the place.

Wrong.
The topic I started is about accesibilty job openings.
Alternatively I offered some advice to a novel musician.
Your replies are the ones that are utterly off-topic and not welcomed.
If you are interested in SPAM, I suggest you stay away from this
thread and get into one of the zillion SPAM messages available
somewhere else.

The topic you started is SPAM. Nothing more, nothing less. And we're
discussing your SPAM.

Get lost, SPAMMER. Your kind are not welcome here.

And I and others will keep telling you that until you get it through
your thick skull.

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Remove the "x" from my email address
Jerry Stuckle
JDS Computer Training Corp.
(e-mail address removed)
==================

 

[KarlCore]

If you want to discuss about SPAM, then you should focus your
attention to the hundreds of SPAM messages posted on this Group on a
regular basis.

On AWW, there are several regular posters who do go after spammers
like you on a regular basis. This, IMO, is why the signal-to-noise
ratio is much better on AWW than several other groups I read.
misc.fitness.weights is a prime example of what happens when regs
don't stand and fight against kooks, trolls, and spammers.

Karl

 

[RafaMinu]

RafaMinu wrote:
[spam about] Consulting and teaching positions:
...
Recruiting Manager
Human Factors International
Believe or not the only interest behind the posting is nothing else
than provide useful information.
What makes HFI's job openings different or more useful than the other
zillion job postings out there? You aren't going to spam Usenet with all
of them, are you?

The very nature of the job offered is what makes it different.
It's all about accessibility and usability. A most interesting topic
and related to ALL Groups posted.

Then why didn't you post this message in comp.human-factors?  Why
didn't you cross-post it to any of the many software development
newsgroups? Why only comp.lang.php? Why not any of the Java or ASP
newsgroups?

I made a search for accessibility in Google Groups and I came up with
these first:
alt.www.webmaster, alt.html, uk.net.web.authoring, comp.lang.php,
comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html
I didn't know about the existence of that group, but are you implying
that I should post the same message to comp.human-factors?
As I see that group focuses on issues related to human-computer
interaction (HCI). Not sure if it'd be appropriate for this kind of
post.
In any case, that would be multi-posting, you know?

Since I personally know some of the people at HFI, I'll be sure to let
them know about your posts.

Please do.
Post them my regards as well.

 

[RafaMinu]

RafaMinu wrote:
RafaMinu wrote:
[spam about] Consulting and teaching positions:
...
Recruiting Manager
Human Factors International
Believe or not the only interest behind the posting is nothing else
than provide useful information.
What makes HFI's job openings different or more useful than the other
zillion job postings out there? You aren't going to spam Usenet with all
of them, are you?
The very nature of the job offered is what makes it different.
It's all about accessibility and usability. A most interesting topic
and related to ALL Groups posted.
I just wish this thread would focus on that topic.
If you want to discuss about SPAM, then you should focus your
attention to the hundreds of SPAM messages posted on this Group on a
regular basis.
No, it doesn't.  There are zillions of other job postings of similar types.

Untrue.
Show me just one.

Just google.  You'll find them all over the place.

Wrong.
The topic I started is about accesibilty job openings.
Alternatively I offered some advice to a novel musician.
Your replies are the ones that are utterly off-topic and not welcomed.
If you are interested in SPAM, I suggest you stay away from this
thread and get into one of the zillion SPAM messages available
somewhere else.

The topic you started is SPAM.  Nothing more, nothing less.  And we're
discussing your SPAM.

Get lost, SPAMMER.  Your kind are not welcome here.

And I and others will keep telling you that until you get it through
your thick skull.

Please stay focused on the main topic of the thread I started, that
is, Usability Job Opportunities.
Otherwise I ask you politely to go away and pester someone else.

 

[RafaMinu]

On AWW, there are several regular posters who do go after spammers
like you on a regular basis. This, IMO, is why the signal-to-noise
ratio is much better on AWW than several other groups I read.
misc.fitness.weights is a prime example of what happens when regs
don't stand and fight against kooks, trolls, and spammers.

What does misc.fitness.weights has to do with accessibility issues?
Are you trying to pull a joke?
Well, let me assure you it's not funny at all.

Since you are unable to contribute anything positive to the thread,
I'm going to add a few more links:

Job Opening for Web Accessibility QA
If you or someone you know has good experience and knowledge in Web
Accessibility, and wants a good job in California (Silicon Valley),
please contact me, Dennis, at webaxe at gmail dot com. The position is
in the QA department for a company that does a financial web
application.
http://webaxe.blogspot.com/2007/06/job-opening-for-web-accessibility-qa.html

Open Posts
MIT Computer Science and Artificial Intelligence Laboratory
Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI)
Web Accessibility Engineer

European Research Consortium on Informatics and Mathematics (ERCIM)
Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI)
Web Accessibility and Ageing Consultant

http://www.w3.org/Consortium/Recruitment/

Now, if you want to discuss these postings and/or contribute with
other links, please do so.
Otherwise stay off this thread and take your off-topic deviations
somewhere else.

 

[AC]

Consulting and teaching positions:

* Do you have several years of hands-on experience in the fields
of usability engineering and human factors?
* Are you bright, sharp, extremely knowledgeable, and have great
client and interpersonal skills?
* Do you love the idea of working on fast-paced, diverse,
interesting projects for a variety of companies and organizations
world-wide?
* Are you interested in teaching the leading-edge and fundamental
principles of usability to others?

http://www.humanfactors.com/about/employment.asp

"HFI offers a full-range of recruiting and placement services. If your
firm is looking for top usability specialists, you can come to us with
confidence. If you are a usability practitioner looking for placement
in a leading company, we can help. And for those individuals who want
to work with a truly international team in an environment focused
entirely on usability, we have frequent openings in our own U.S. and
global offices."
Jim Garrett
Recruiting Manager
Human Factors International

http://www.humanfactors.com/services/recruitment.asp

Bearing in mind the MI5 spam, I do think people here are getting a bit
snotty about this. And even if no one else did , I found the link mildly
interesting enough to have a look, and it related to web design. Sure it
eneded up having little interest to me, but so what? Cant see why folks here
have to be so viscious to this guy, whoever he is or what ever his motive
for posting is.

AC

 

[KarlCore]

RafaMinu wrote:
[spam about] Consulting and teaching positions:
...
Recruiting Manager
Human Factors International
Believe or not the only interest behind the posting is nothing else
than provide useful information.
What makes HFI's job openings different or more useful than the other
zillion job postings out there? You aren't going to spam Usenet with all
of them, are you?
The very nature of the job offered is what makes it different.
It's all about accessibility and usability. A most interesting topic
and related to ALL Groups posted.

Then why didn't you post this message in comp.human-factors? Why
didn't you cross-post it to any of the many software development
newsgroups? Why only comp.lang.php? Why not any of the Java or ASP
newsgroups?

I made a search for accessibility in Google Groups and I came up with
these first:
alt.www.webmaster, alt.html, uk.net.web.authoring, comp.lang.php,
comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html
I didn't know about the existence of that group, but are you implying
that I should post the same message to comp.human-factors?
As I see that group focuses on issues related to human-computer
interaction (HCI). Not sure if it'd be appropriate for this kind of
post.

This betrays your complete lack of understanding about what usability
is.

Karl

 

[dE|_]

Since you are unable to contribute anything positive to the thread,
I'm going to add a few more links:

Job Opening for Web Accessibility QA
If you or someone you know has good experience and knowledge in Web
Accessibility, and wants a good job in California (Silicon Valley),
please contact me, Dennis, at webaxe at gmail dot com. The position is
in the QA department for a company that does a financial web
application.
http://webaxe.___________-qa.html

Open Posts
MIT Computer Science and Artificial Intelligence Laboratory
Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI)
Web Accessibility Engineer

European Research Consortium on Informatics and Mathematics (ERCIM)
Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI)
Web Accessibility and Ageing Consultant

http://www.w3.org/_________ecruitment/

Now, if you want to discuss these postings and/or contribute with
other links, please do so.
Otherwise stay off this thread and take your off-topic deviations
somewhere else.

Now you've just gone and got your fingers up in the air in rebellion like a
kid. "F*ck you I won't do what you tell me"

---dE|_---

 

[dE|_]

Bearing in mind the MI5 spam,

Have you read it? It's not sales spam, that guy's been derranged for 17
years, he's not going to listen to the loading of a shotgun.

I do think people here are getting a bit snotty about this. And even if no
one else did , I found the link mildly interesting enough to have a look,
and it related to web design. Sure it eneded up having little interest to
me, but so what? Cant see why folks here have to be so viscious to this
guy, whoever he is or what ever his motive for posting is.

Because Rafa was/is trying to take everyone for idiots. Now he's resorting
to 'Tell me not to do it and I'll do it again'.

I've got a day to get on with now so enjoy yourself.

---dE|_---

 

[RafaMinu]

Now you've just gone and got your fingers up in the air in rebellion like a
kid. "F*ck you I won't do what you tell me"

Up yours ¡¡¡

 

[Jerry Stuckle]

Up yours ¡¡¡

You did not start this discussion with usability issues. You started it
with SPAM. Plain and simple. And now you SPAM more.

You aren't going to find anyone to discuss SPAM with you.

And with that attitude, you won't find anyone to discuss ANYTHING with
you - unless it's another spammer.

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Remove the "x" from my email address
Jerry Stuckle
JDS Computer Training Corp.
(e-mail address removed)
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[Andy Jacobs]

You did not start this discussion with usability issues. You started it
with SPAM. Plain and simple. And now you SPAM more.

You aren't going to find anyone to discuss SPAM with you.

And with that attitude, you won't find anyone to discuss ANYTHING with
you - unless it's another spammer.

I don't get it. Why was the original post spam? Are you saying that there
are no jobs available and that the 'quoted' text is the prime reason for the
post?

Let's say I post the following:

Freelance designers wanted with experience of

* CSS
* xhtml
* Photoshop
* php/MySQL

Redcat Media are a leading edge web design and development agency based in
Hampshire in nice offices with free parking and we're also very good at
search engine optimisation.

Is that spam? By putting such a blatant plug for my company as an example,
is that double spam?

 

[Bergamot]

Please stay focused on the main topic of the thread I started,

This is Usenet. We are free to discuss your post in any way we see fit.

that is, Usability Job Opportunities.

The way we see it, the main topic of the thread you started is not
Usability Job Opportunities at all. If it were, you would have made some
additional comments about the field in general, or the ad in particular.
Regardless of your intentions, you came off as the HFI guy spamming Usenet.

Otherwise I ask you politely to go away and pester someone else.

Perhaps you should quit while you're behind.