Please criticize my website.

[dorayme]

I know where it is.

Yes, I know where Tasmania is too. OK, how about.... um .... um
.... La Bajada?

dorayme

 

[Toby Inkster]

If this is "the" rather than "a" former Premier, I deduce that
you have experienced our nice beaches...

Yes, the. Lived in Maroubra for the majority of my life, but now in
London, which doesn't have any beaches. :-(

Will hopefully be moving to somewhere that is a bus-ride from a nice beach
in about a year. (That is, I'll be moving in about a year -- the bus ride
lasts much less than a year.)

 

[Stewart Gordon]

Some argue that all the pages should have the same color to be consistent
but I find that consistency can be based on other elements and not necessary
on the color. And even if I should use only one color, there is no need to
choose it now.

You can of course have variety in the colour scheme between different
parts of a site. I do on mine, for instance. The difference is that in
my case it's applied on a section-by-section basis, and in a way that
was obviously intentional. Yours looks like a mistake, especially if
you try viewing the two versions with some links visited and others not.

That sounds more interesting, which one?

"Map of Italy Italy" down the side of most pages.

Which ones?

italymap.html

(not to mention that I don't see a map of anything there....)

Which ones?
intforrent.html
ifrtwo.html


I find more practical to have these pages under construction because they
help me have a structure even while the site is under construction.

True ... but it would still be a structure if you commented out these
links, or maybe marked them visibly as under construction. And by the
way, one of them (Swedish furniture) is missing the .html bit.

I am not sure what you mean but if I understood you properly you are right.
That is something which I could repair during the next months.


I think it is used to skip the navigation links.
The wrong language should be the right one but which pages do you exactly
mean?

Most of the pages. Look:

<p><a href="#content"> <img src="../bilder/test.gif" height="1"
width="1" alt="Vänligen gå direkt till huvudinnehåll"></a></p>

8. You could make use of default index files. I.e. call the main page
within each folder index.html, making it quicker to access (if the
webserver's configured the way most are).

http://webtips.dan.info/subdir.html

Stewart.

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[Luigi Donatello Asero]

You can of course have variety in the colour scheme between different
parts of a site. I do on mine, for instance. The difference is that in
my case it's applied on a section-by-section basis, and in a way that
was obviously intentional. Yours looks like a mistake, especially if
you try viewing the two versions with some links visited and others not.

No, I do not think it was a mistake but some colors may change.

"Map of Italy Italy" down the side of most pages.

Did you talk about the English pages, didn´t you?

italymap.html

(not to mention that I don't see a map of anything there....)

Which directory?

intforrent.html
ifrtwo.html

Again, please write a complete URL.

True ... but it would still be a structure if you commented out these
links, or maybe marked them visibly as under construction. And by the
way, one of them (Swedish furniture) is missing the .html bit.

Are you only talking about the English pages?
Again, please write the complete URL.
Many things you are talking about seem to have to do with that the site is
under construction.

Most of the pages. Look:

<p><a href="#content"> <img src="../bilder/test.gif" height="1"
width="1" alt="Vänligen gå direkt till huvudinnehåll"></a></p>

You are right here. But the "alt" is for a picture which is very, very
little and which is used to skip the navigation links.

8. You could make use of default index files. I.e. call the main page
within each folder index.html, making it quicker to access (if the
webserver's configured the way most are).

http://webtips.dan.info/subdir.html

Stewart.

Why should I do that?
I think it would be rather confusing.


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(sono italiano ma vivo in Svezia)
(Ñ Ð¸Ñ‚Ð°Ð»ÑŒÑнец но Ñ Ð¶Ð¸Ð²Ñƒ в Швеции )
(我是 æ„大利人 , 但是 我 ä½ åœ¨ ç‘žå…¸)
(minä olen Italian kansalainen, mutta minä asun Ruotsissa)
https://www.scaiecat-spa-gigi.com/sv/boende-i-italien.php

 

[dorayme]

Yes, the. Lived in Maroubra for the majority of my life, but now in
London, which doesn't have any beaches. :-(

Ah so!

dorayme

 

[Stewart Gordon]

"Stewart Gordon" <[email protected]> skrev i meddelandet


No, I do not think it was a mistake but some colors may change.

That they may change isn't wrong. But the fact that they change on
some pages but not others looks inconsistent.

Did you talk about the English pages, didn´t you?

That's indeed the only place where I've noticed English words so far.

Which directory?

https://www.scaiecat-spa-gigi.com/en/italymap.html

Where else is there an English version?

Again, please write a complete URL.

https://www.scaiecat-spa-gigi.com/en/intforrent.html
https://www.scaiecat-spa-gigi.com/en/ifrtwo.html

Wondering if the other language versions have the same problem, I had
a look at the Italian version and found

https://www.scaiecat-spa-gigi.com/it/prezziaffittoanimskog.html
https://www.scaiecat-spa-gigi.com/it/lagofurusjon.html

Are you only talking about the English pages?

Only in the sense that that's what I looked at. You should know
whether you follow consistent practices across language barriers.

Again, please write the complete URL. Many things you are talking
about seem to have to do with that the site is under construction.

Almost every URL beginning with

https://www.scaiecat-spa-gigi.com/en/

You are right here. But the "alt" is for a picture which is very,
very little and which is used to skip the navigation links.

I don't understand. How does it skip the navigation links? And what
has the smallness of the image have to do with the alt text? Why should
a search engine, a reader who has image loading switched off or someone
using a plain text browser see the words "Vänligen gå direkt till
huvudinnehåll" when perusing the English version of the site?

Why should I do that? I think it would be rather confusing.

What's confusing about it? I'd say it's confusing that people _can't_
get to the English home page simply by entering.

http://www.scaiecat-spa-gigi.com/en/

Stewart.

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[Luigi Donatello Asero]

That they may change isn't wrong. But the fact that they change on
some pages but not others looks inconsistent.

I think that you have already expressed your opinion on this subject and got
an answer as well.

That's indeed the only place where I've noticed English words so far.

Fine. You might have found them on pages which have a lot of contents in
other languages or which are in the wrong directory.

Ok.
Where else is there an English version?

See above

https://www.scaiecat-spa-gigi.com/en/intforrent.html
https://www.scaiecat-spa-gigi.com/en/ifrtwo.html

Wondering if the other language versions have the same problem, I had
a look at the Italian version and found

https://www.scaiecat-spa-gigi.com/it/prezziaffittoanimskog.html
https://www.scaiecat-spa-gigi.com/it/lagofurusjon.html

What did you want to say about these pages?

Only in the sense that that's what I looked at. You should know
whether you follow consistent practices across language barriers.



Almost every URL beginning with

https://www.scaiecat-spa-gigi.com/en/



I don't understand. How does it skip the navigation links? And what
has the smallness of the image have to do with the alt text?

The user does not see any image, does he or she?


Why should

a search engine, a reader who has image loading switched off or someone
using a plain text browser see the words "Vänligen gå direkt till
huvudinnehåll" when perusing the English version of the site?

I have nothing against changing the text. But I thought that there would be
much more and much worse mistakes in the website.

What's confusing about it? I'd say it's confusing that people _can't_
get to the English home page simply by entering.

http://www.scaiecat-spa-gigi.com/en/

I do not share your opinion.


--
Luigi Donatello Asero
(sono italiano ma vivo in Svezia)
(Ñ Ð¸Ñ‚Ð°Ð»ÑŒÑнец но Ñ Ð¶Ð¸Ð²Ñƒ в Швеции )
(我是 æ„大利人 , 但是 我 ä½ åœ¨ ç‘žå…¸)
(minä olen Italian kansalainen, mutta minä asun Ruotsissa)
https://www.scaiecat-spa-gigi.com/sv/boende-i-italien.php

 

[Stewart Gordon]

What did you want to say about these pages?

Exactly what I have already said about them. What do you mean?

The user does not see any image, does he or she?

What has that to do with it?

Why should

I have nothing against changing the text. But I thought that there would be
much more and much worse mistakes in the website.

<snip>

FWIW I just tried putting it through a translator and got:

Gentle walk direct to huvudinnehåll

Unless the translation is wildly inaccurate, I don't see why even this
is information that you want to present only to users who have image
loading switched off or are using a non-graphical UA.

Stewart.

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[Jonathan N. Little]

Stewart Gordon wrote:

FWIW I just tried putting it through a translator and got:

Gentle walk direct to huvudinnehåll

Unless the translation is wildly inaccurate, I don't see why even this
is information that you want to present only to users who have image
loading switched off or are using a non-graphical UA.

Stewart:

You might want to step back, take a couple of deep breaths, and not so
slowly back away!! As dorame has described, you have been bewitched and
are under Luigi's spell ;-) Like a fly to a pitcher plant you have been
mysteriously lured in. Venture too far and there is no escape! No good
will come of it, trust me ;-)

 

[Luigi Donatello Asero]

Stewart Gordon wrote:


Stewart:

You might want to step back, take a couple of deep breaths, and not so
slowly back away!! As dorame has described, you have been bewitched and
are under Luigi's spell ;-) Like a fly to a pitcher plant you have been
mysteriously lured in. Venture too far and there is no escape! No good
will come of it, trust me ;-)

I have installed Firefox on another computer and I browsered the page
https://www.scaiecat-spa-gigi.com/index.php
It was displayed correctly. I did not see any problem.

--
Luigi Donatello Asero
(sono italiano ma vivo in Svezia)
(Ñ Ð¸Ñ‚Ð°Ð»ÑŒÑнец но Ñ Ð¶Ð¸Ð²Ñƒ в Швеции )
(我是 æ„大利人 , 但是 我 ä½ åœ¨ ç‘žå…¸)
(minä olen Italian kansalainen, mutta minä asun Ruotsissa)
(yo soy italiano mas yo vivo en Suecia)
(je suis italien mais je habite a la Suede)
https://www.scaiecat-spa-gigi.com/it/svezia/vaestra-goetaland/goeteborg.php

 

[Luigi Donatello Asero]

"Stewart Gordon" <[email protected]> skrev i meddelandet

[cut]

Gentle walk direct to huvudinnehåll

Unless the translation is wildly inaccurate, I don't see why even this
is information that you want to present only to users who have image
loading switched off or are using a non-graphical UA.

Stewart.

I do not think that this is really an issue to discuss in details
because I do not have anything against writing this piece of information
contained in "alt" in the language in which every page is published, I only
think that it is a minor detail and that there are probably worse mistakes
on the website.

--
Luigi Donatello Asero
(sono italiano ma vivo in Svezia)
(Ñ Ð¸Ñ‚Ð°Ð»ÑŒÑнец но Ñ Ð¶Ð¸Ð²Ñƒ в Швеции )
(我是 æ„大利人 , 但是 我 ä½ åœ¨ ç‘žå…¸)
(minä olen Italian kansalainen, mutta minä asun Ruotsissa)
(yo soy italiano mas yo vivo en Suecia)
(je suis italien mais je habite a la Suede)
(ich bin Italiener aber ich lebe in Schweden)
https://www.scaiecat-spa-gigi.com/de/schweden/vaestra-goetaland/vaestra-goetaland.php

 

[Jonathan N. Little]

Luigi Donatello Asero wrote:

I have installed Firefox on another computer and I browsered the page
https://www.scaiecat-spa-gigi.com/index.php
It was displayed correctly. I did not see any problem.

Yeah, right! So I suppose this was the intensionally *creative aspect*
of your design!

<valid advice that you will summarily dismiss>

Lose the table for your image/desc pairs and put in DIVs so description
stays with images yet will allow the design to flow properly at
various view ports

</valid advice that you will summarily dismiss>

 

[Jonathan N. Little]

Luigi Donatello Asero wrote:

I have installed Firefox on another computer and I browsered the page
https://www.scaiecat-spa-gigi.com/index.php
It was displayed correctly. I did not see any problem.

Yeah, right! So I suppose this was the intensionally *creative aspect*
of your design! (damn! hit send before the screenshot link!!!)

http://www.littleworksstudio.com/temp/alt.html.051001.jpg

<valid advice that you will summarily dismiss>

Lose the table for your image/desc pairs and put in DIVs so description
stays with images yet will allow the design to flow properly at
various view ports

</valid advice that you will summarily dismiss>

 

[Jonathan N. Little]

"Stewart Gordon" <[email protected]> skrev i meddelandet

[cut]

Gentle walk direct to huvudinnehåll

Unless the translation is wildly inaccurate, I don't see why even this
is information that you want to present only to users who have image
loading switched off or are using a non-graphical UA.

Stewart.

I do not think that this is really an issue to discuss in details
because I do not have anything against writing this piece of information
contained in "alt" in the language in which every page is published, I only
think that it is a minor detail and that there are probably worse mistakes
on the website.

Yes but unfortunately you dismiss those as well!

 

[Luigi Donatello Asero]

Luigi Donatello Asero wrote:


Yeah, right! So I suppose this was the intensionally *creative aspect*
of your design!

As I said it was displayed properly.
I do not have any idea why you may have seen it in a different way.
--

<valid advice that you will summarily dismiss>

Lose the table for your image/desc pairs and put in DIVs so description
stays with images yet will allow the design to flow properly at
various view ports

</valid advice that you will summarily dismiss>

So would you advice me to change something which already works in Firefox?


--
Luigi Donatello Asero
(sono italiano ma vivo in Svezia)
(Ñ Ð¸Ñ‚Ð°Ð»ÑŒÑнец но Ñ Ð¶Ð¸Ð²Ñƒ в Швеции )
(我是 æ„大利人 , 但是 我 ä½ åœ¨ ç‘žå…¸)
(minä olen Italian kansalainen, mutta minä asun Ruotsissa)
(yo soy italiano mas yo vivo en Suecia)
(je suis italien mais je habite a la Suede)
(ich bin Italiener aber ich lebe in Schweden)
https://www.scaiecat-spa-gigi.com/sv/boende-i-italien.php

 

[Luigi Donatello Asero]

Luigi Donatello Asero wrote:



Yeah, right! So I suppose this was the intensionally *creative aspect*
of your design! (damn! hit send before the screenshot link!!!)

http://www.littleworksstudio.com/temp/alt.html.051001.jpg

It was not shown this way at all when I tested it
(WinXP, Firefox)
Perhaps you were using another operative system.

--
Luigi Donatello Asero
(sono italiano ma vivo in Svezia)
(Ñ Ð¸Ñ‚Ð°Ð»ÑŒÑнец но Ñ Ð¶Ð¸Ð²Ñƒ в Швеции )
(我是 æ„大利人 , 但是 我 ä½ åœ¨ ç‘žå…¸)
(minä olen Italian kansalainen, mutta minä asun Ruotsissa)
(yo soy italiano mas yo vivo en Suecia)
(je suis italien mais je habite a la Suede)
(ich bin Italiener aber ich lebe in Schweden)
https://www.scaiecat-spa-gigi.com/it/svezia/vaestra-goetaland/goeteborg.php

 

[Luigi Donatello Asero]

"Stewart Gordon" <[email protected]> skrev i meddelandet

[cut]

Gentle walk direct to huvudinnehåll

Unless the translation is wildly inaccurate, I don't see why even this
is information that you want to present only to users who have image
loading switched off or are using a non-graphical UA.

Stewart.

I do not think that this is really an issue to discuss in details
because I do not have anything against writing this piece of information
contained in "alt" in the language in which every page is published, I only
think that it is a minor detail and that there are probably worse mistakes
on the website.

Yes but unfortunately you dismiss those as well!

I dismissed some of those which you regard as such.
I did not dismiss this one, I only objected that it was a minor detail which
did not mean that I did not want to correct it.
But there are other things to do on the website which are more important to
do in my view.
--
Luigi Donatello Asero
(sono italiano ma vivo in Svezia)
(Ñ Ð¸Ñ‚Ð°Ð»ÑŒÑнец но Ñ Ð¶Ð¸Ð²Ñƒ в Швеции )
(我是 æ„大利人 , 但是 我 ä½ åœ¨ ç‘žå…¸)
(minä olen Italian kansalainen, mutta minä asun Ruotsissa)
(yo soy italiano mas yo vivo en Suecia)
(je suis italien mais je habite a la Suede)
(ich bin Italiener aber ich lebe in Schweden)
https://www.scaiecat-spa-gigi.com/it/svezia/vaestra-goetaland/goeteborg.php

 

[Beauregard T. Shagnasty]

<valid advice that you will summarily dismiss>

Lose the table for your image/desc pairs and put in DIVs so
description stays with images yet will allow the design to flow
properly at various view ports

</valid advice that you will summarily dismiss>

I suggested this very change to Luigi early in the thread, and yes, he
dismissed it.

 

[Beauregard T. Shagnasty]

It was not shown this way at all when I tested it
(WinXP, Firefox)
Perhaps you were using another operative system.

Doesn't matter. Your page looks exactly the same to me. I gave you a
screen shot as well, a week or so ago. Firefox 1.0.7, Win2K. The
operating system doesn't matter; it is your page design (or lack
thereof).

 

[Luigi Donatello Asero]

I suggested this very change to Luigi early in the thread, and yes, he
dismissed it.

So, are we talking specifically about this change?
Who wrote that Firefox is the first one I should test my site on?
Now Firefox displayed it correctly when I tested the homepage.

--
Luigi Donatello Asero
(sono italiano ma vivo in Svezia)
(Ñ Ð¸Ñ‚Ð°Ð»ÑŒÑнец но Ñ Ð¶Ð¸Ð²Ñƒ в Швеции )
(我是 æ„大利人 , 但是 我 ä½ åœ¨ ç‘žå…¸)
(minä olen Italian kansalainen, mutta minä asun Ruotsissa)
(yo soy italiano mas yo vivo en Suecia)
(je suis italien mais je habite a la Suede)
(ich bin Italiener aber ich lebe in Schweden)
https://www.scaiecat-spa-gigi.com/it/svezia/vaestra-goetaland/goeteborg.php