Flash site showing off or going to the extreme?

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richard

http://www.quadricsoft.com/main.asp

Whilst hunting for various flash menus ideas I came across this site.
While it's not gawdy or totally ridiculous, it does kind of serve a
purpose in showing off what flash can do.

Find the samples and click on any button and you'll see numerus
tricks.
 
C

Chris F.A. Johnson

http://www.quadricsoft.com/main.asp

Whilst hunting for various flash menus ideas I came across this site.
While it's not gawdy or totally ridiculous, it does kind of serve a
purpose in showing off what flash can do.

Find the samples and click on any button and you'll see numerus
tricks.

An excellent example of an unreadable page; the text is far too
small for me to read. It should read "Flash debilitated", not
"Flash enabled".
 
J

John Hosking

richard said:
http://www.quadricsoft.com/main.asp

Whilst hunting for various flash menus ideas I came across this site.
While it's not gawdy or totally ridiculous, it does kind of serve a
purpose in showing off what flash can do.

Yes, because the Web needs more (pointlessly) animated graphics, marquee
scrolling, and miniature, non-resizable text. While that page is
displayed, even without me hovering or clicking on anything, my CPU
usage floats at around 80%-85%, up from about 5%-10%.
Find the samples and click on any button and you'll see numerus
tricks.

It's hardly fun trying to click the links when they're spinning and
jumping away from the cursor like they do. Oddly, their samples aren't
dynamic; it's just the execrable UI of the page that do the actual "tricks".
 
I

Irina Rempt

richard said:
Whilst hunting for various flash menus ideas I came across this site.
While it's not gawdy or totally ridiculous, it does kind of serve a
purpose in showing off what flash can do.

I beg to differ: it is gaudy, gawky (no 'gawdy' in my dictionary) as well as
totally ridiculous. I don't like pointless movement in sites.

Also, I already know what flash can do, and I prefer it not to do it to me.

Irina
 
T

Travis Newbury

Whilst hunting for various flash menus ideas I came across this site.
While it's not gawdy or totally ridiculous, it does kind of serve a
purpose in showing off what flash can do.

That is completely gaudy and totally ridiculous!
 
T

Travis Newbury

Also, I already know what flash can do, and I prefer it not to do it to me.

I believe one of the main problems Flash has with it's reputation is
that many people, like yourself, believe that this site is an example
of what Flash can do.

This page demonstrates a very small subset of Flash's capabilities.
 
C

cwdjrxyz

I believe one of the main problems Flash has with it's reputation is
that many people, like yourself, believe that this site is an example
of what Flash can do.

This page demonstrates a very small subset of Flash's capabilities.

Flash suffers from the reputation it had, especially for early
versions. The animation was often crude, it was often autostarted, and
it often could not be turned off. Then it was usually used for ads.
While I and likely most who visit this group dislike this sort of
thing, the hard-sell approach is still apparently live and well in
some circles. There are still plenty of loud, fast talking, often
nearly screaming people on US TV trying to get you to buy something,
and apparently they sell things, because the cost of national TV ads
is very high.

With the introduction of the flv (flash video) and use of flv/swf
files a few versions ago, flash became capable of video as good as
Microsoft, Real, QT etc formats. If you will look at the web sites of
many of the largest US TV and cable news sources you will find that
many are now using flv/swf for news content video and not just ads.
The reason for this is very simple. A flash player is installed on
more computers than any of the earlier video formats mentioned. Also
the WMP, which at one time was the main video player, can now be
installed only on Windows XP or Vista for the most recent 2 versions -
WMP 10 and 11.

You can perhaps equal the bad taste and annoyance of bad flash using
just some html, css, and JavaScript - dhtml. This is not now used
nearly as much as flash because it usually takes much more time to
write the code, and one must have a very good knowledge of Javascript.
To prove my point, you might like to visit hell. Be warned that this
page has autostarted sound (if you have WMP installed) and flashing
visual effects that might not be suitable for those with epilepsyThe
sound is repeated 10000 times. I do take mercy on you and provide a
WMP control panel that lets you turn the sound off. If this does not
prove the point, I would like to know the url of a flash video that is
more annoying. The url for hell is http://cwdjr.net/flash/hell.html .
 
J

John Hosking

Travis said:
I actually find about 1/2 of those sites to be pretty nice. Guess
that shows what sucks in one person's eyes can be great in another
person's eyes

I refuse to call "great" (or even accept) a site that sucks in a
person's eyes.

:p
 
T

Travis Newbury

I refuse to call "great" (or even accept) a site that sucks in a
person's eyes.

So if a site "sucks" in anyone's eyes, then you could never accept
that site as being good? So does that means you don't think any sites
on the web are good because every site sucks to someone.
 
D

dorayme

Ben C said:
I think John's point was that people's eyes should remain in their
sockets when viewing web sites.

Or perhaps he might not go quite as far as this, perhaps he would regard
a site that did this as interesting in various ways, just not great. Me,
I'd be entranced as a third party observer to see it happen and would
not hesitate to use "great" ...
 
H

Harlan Messinger

richard said:
http://www.quadricsoft.com/main.asp

Whilst hunting for various flash menus ideas I came across this site.
While it's not gawdy or totally ridiculous, it does kind of serve a
purpose in showing off what flash can do.

Find the samples and click on any button and you'll see numerus
tricks.

What is the purpose of the three triangles simulating sexual intercourse?

There's so much movement that it was nearly a minute before it occurred
to me there was text on the page to be read.

Meanwhile, what does it show about Flash? That you can create
animations? That's about as earthshattering as the realization that you
can use CSS to italicize text.
 
B

Bergamot

Ben said:
I think John's point was that people's eyes should remain in their
sockets when viewing web sites.

Yeah, I got this, too. Travis must be a little slow this morning. ;)
 
D

dorayme

Ben C said:
Actually marketing types do use expressions like "grabbing people's
eyeballs" mainly to explain their plans for putting ads everywhere.

I'm sure there's a David Cronenberg film to be made out of this
somewhere.

I think any such film would only make money if it was carefully
calibrated to only take a few people's eyeballs. It does not make much
sense to want your eyeballs - or any other balls you might happen to
have - grabbed by a film.

However, if a film is made with the ability to grab very few on a random
basis and this is advertised widely then people would flock in for the
pleasure of watching others being subjected to it.

In The Purple Rose of Cairo the characters in the film walk out into the
real world, we are discussing a variation of the very opposite. The very
opposite is audience members walking into films, the variation being
that their body parts are sucked in.
 

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