Group Saved My Job - Thank You

[irishgeek101]

Hi,

I am currently employed thanks to the help of an Java / XML IDE that I
found from the groups.

I was really struggling to get upto speed and my boss have given me 4
weeks to finish an application in Java/XML (which I told him i knew a
lot more about than I did at my interview, bad I know but I really
needed a job). Anyway I did it and he is delighted, the whole thing
works perfectly.

IDE was xbeanengine - www.xbeanengine.com - it is awesome.

Thanks a Million, Some day I hope I will be able to help someone in
the same way.

irishgeek101

 

[Ganesan R]

Hi,
I am currently employed thanks to the help of an Java / XML IDE that I
found from the groups.

I've never seen xbeanengine mentioned in this newsgroup. I was curious about
the claim and had time to waste. So I checked out groups.google.com. I found
that almost every single post about the IDE is a promotion for the product.

Some of the postings are interestingly disguised but when you look at them
collectively in groups.google.com, you can easily see that some one is
attempting a subtle product placement. I have nothing against the product
(never used it), but this kind of leaves a bad taste.

Ganesan

 

[Thomas Weidenfeller]

I've never seen xbeanengine mentioned in this newsgroup. I was curious about
the claim and had time to waste. So I checked out groups.google.com. I found
that almost every single post about the IDE is a promotion for the product.

Some of the postings are interestingly disguised but when you look at them
collectively in groups.google.com, you can easily see that some one is
attempting a subtle product placement.

Intresting coincidence that almost all of the postings come from yahoo
accounts.

/Thomas

 

[Michael Amling]

Hi,

I am currently employed thanks to the help of an Java / XML IDE that I
found from the groups.

I was really struggling to get upto speed and my boss have given me 4
weeks to finish an application in Java/XML (which I told him i knew a
lot more about than I did at my interview, bad I know but I really
needed a job). Anyway I did it and he is delighted, the whole thing
works perfectly.

IDE was xbeanengine - www.xbeanengine.com - it is awesome.

I hear you're working for xbeanengine's marketing department.

--Mike Amling

 

[Larry Coon]

I hear you're working for xbeanengine's marketing department.

I was reading the original post and thinking, "could
this guy BE any more obvious?"

One thing for sure -- I'm trying to settle on an IDE
to use myself, and I know what I -won't- pick. I
have a hard time trusting a company whose tactics are
so disingenuous.


Larry Coon
University of California

 

[Jon A. Cruz]

I've never seen xbeanengine mentioned in this newsgroup. ....
Some of the postings are interestingly disguised but when you look at them
collectively in groups.google.com, you can easily see that some one is
attempting a subtle product placement. I have nothing against the product
(never used it), but this kind of leaves a bad taste.

Sounds like an attempt to "astroturf"



http://www.angelfire.com/nj2/edcurry/astroturf.html

http://www.uow.edu.au/arts/sts/sbeder/PR.html

 

[irishgeek101]

You ignorant shower of idiots, I dont give a toss about what any of
you think.

Are any of you even old enough to remember when this was a community
and we all helped each other and in return all that was given was
thanks and praise. I spent years working on cobol and was bloody good
at it but where the hell can you get a decent cobol job these days.

The groups helped me and I said thanks and all you tossers can do is
come up with some crap about me being in marketing. Maybe you are the
sort of people who just take and never give or say thanks but I was
brought up to be polite and always try and return a favour. I bet
that not one of you even bothered to look at the app, no why would you
maybe you would learn something.

We are not all as shallow and stupid as you tossers.

yours in disgust.

101

 

[Edward Diener]

Hi,

I am currently employed thanks to the help of an Java / XML IDE that I
found from the groups.

I was really struggling to get upto speed and my boss have given me 4
weeks to finish an application in Java/XML (which I told him i knew a
lot more about than I did at my interview, bad I know but I really
needed a job). Anyway I did it and he is delighted, the whole thing
works perfectly.

IDE was xbeanengine - www.xbeanengine.com - it is awesome.

Thanks a Million, Some day I hope I will be able to help someone in
the same way.

Ah, another one of those software tools which don't tell you a price until
you are already purchasing it. Will Internet scams never cease <g> ? How
convenient your message is <g><g>.

 

[Larry Coon]

Are any of you even old enough to remember when this was a community
and we all helped each other and in return all that was given was
thanks and praise.

I -am- old enough, I -do- remember, and when that actually
happened, and it was pretty cool. But then the spammers and
marketers discovered that Usenet was a great marketing
opportunity just waiting to be exploited, and jaded all of us.

The groups helped me and I said thanks and all you tossers can do is
come up with some crap about me being in marketing. Maybe you are the
sort of people who just take and never give or say thanks but I was
brought up to be polite and always try and return a favour. I bet
that not one of you even bothered to look at the app, no why would you
maybe you would learn something.

I for one will personally not only apologize, but buy a
copy of your program if you can provide a Google link to
that time where "the groups" referred you to the tool,
and show that your little story with a happy ending
actually happened.


Larry Coon
University of California
(e-mail address removed)
and (e-mail address removed)

 

[gswork]

You ignorant shower of idiots, I dont give a toss about what any of
you think.

Are any of you even old enough to remember when this was a community
and we all helped each other and in return all that was given was
thanks and praise. I spent years working on cobol and was bloody good
at it but where the hell can you get a decent cobol job these days.

The groups helped me and I said thanks and all you tossers can do is
come up with some crap about me being in marketing. Maybe you are the
sort of people who just take and never give

This appears to be the first thread you've involved yourself in
according to groups.google.com

You might be genuine and you might not. People with broad internet
experience are wary of the many methods used to promote products, or
indeed the plain scams.

If 'you' are involved in the product then consider marketing it's
features and benefits in a more credible style. If you are not then
you've just experienced a dose of healthy skepticism and perhaps
learnt something about being on the net.

Either way, good luck.

 

[Jacob]

I've never seen xbeanengine mentioned in this newsgroup. I was curious about
the claim and had time to waste. So I checked out groups.google.com. I found
that almost every single post about the IDE is a promotion for the product.

Some of the postings are interestingly disguised but when you look at them
collectively in groups.google.com, you can easily see that some one is
attempting a subtle product placement. I have nothing against the product
(never used it), but this kind of leaves a bad taste.

Poster: irish-geek @ yahoo.com
Company: Electronic Reality Ltd. based in Dublin, Ireland

Coinicidence?

 

[Joona I Palaste]

Larry Coon <[email protected]> scribbled the following

I was reading the original post and thinking, "could
this guy BE any more obvious?"

One thing for sure -- I'm trying to settle on an IDE
to use myself, and I know what I -won't- pick. I
have a hard time trusting a company whose tactics are
so disingenuous.

IDEs suck anyway. GNU Emacs + Sun javac rules your world, baby!

--
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| Kingpriest of "The Flying Lemon Tree" G++ FR FW+ M- #108 D+ ADA N+++|
| http://www.helsinki.fi/~palaste W++ B OP+ |
\----------------------------------------- Finland rules! ------------/
"Shh! The maestro is decomposing!"
- Gary Larson

 

[Rene]

IDEs suck anyway. GNU Emacs + Sun javac rules your world, baby!

You don't know the power of the incremental compiler, Luke!



CU

Rene

 

[Thomas Weidenfeller]

I for one will personally not only apologize, but buy a
copy of your program if you can provide a Google link to
that time where "the groups" referred you to the tool,
and show that your little story with a happy ending
actually happened.

I think he will have a very hard time to do that. Google shows exactly
two postings from him. The one that started this thread and his rant.

But wait, there is more. In

http://groups.google.com/[email protected]&output=gplain

some "rachel", using an address of (e-mail address removed),
posted an xbeanengine recommendation, from a british telecom business
ADSL netblock via google.

Our irishgeek posts from the same (rather large) BT business ADSL
netblock, also via google, also using a @yahoo.co.uk e-mail address.

With that kind of luck, I wish irishgeek would play the lottery in my
name.

/Thomas

 

[Steve]

That's a whole load of bad language and an even worse attitude for
"someone who was brought up to be polite".

Take your rants elsewhere thanks. Why are you so bothered if people
look at this app or not? My boss won't thank me for wasting time
looking at every random application refered to on usenet.

You ignorant shower of idiots, I dont give a toss about what any of
you think.

Are any of you even old enough to remember when this was a community
and we all helped each other and in return all that was given was
thanks and praise. I spent years working on cobol and was bloody good
at it but where the hell can you get a decent cobol job these days.

The groups helped me and I said thanks and all you tossers can do is
come up with some crap about me being in marketing. Maybe you are the
sort of people who just take and never give or say thanks but I was
brought up to be polite and always try and return a favour. I bet
that not one of you even bothered to look at the app, no why would you
maybe you would learn something.

We are not all as shallow and stupid as you tossers.

yours in disgust.

101

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[dbtid]

I think he will have a very hard time to do that. Google shows exactly
two postings from him. The one that started this thread and his rant.

But wait, there is more. In

http://groups.google.com/[email protected]&output=gplain

some "rachel", using an address of (e-mail address removed),
posted an xbeanengine recommendation, from a british telecom business
ADSL netblock via google.

Our irishgeek posts from the same (rather large) BT business ADSL
netblock, also via google, also using a @yahoo.co.uk e-mail address.

With that kind of luck, I wish irishgeek would play the lottery in my
name.

/Thomas

Totally offtopic, Thomas, but how did you arrive at the conclusion
that 81.134.x.y is an ADSL netblock?

Just curious how you gleaned that bit of information from an IP
address, since I found nothing in the header that indicated this.

Thanks.

 

[Tim Tyler]

:> IDEs suck anyway. GNU Emacs + Sun javac rules your world, baby!

: You don't know the power of the incremental compiler, Luke!

:

Free the incremental compiler! ;-)

 

[Thomas Weidenfeller]

Totally offtopic, Thomas, but how did you arrive at the conclusion
that 81.134.x.y is an ADSL netblock?

Just curious how you gleaned that bit of information from an IP
address, since I found nothing in the header that indicated this.

I did a whois lookup on the ip address and was lucky. RIPE's record
that came up for the block started with:

inetnum: 81.134.0.0 - 81.134.23.255
remarks: Please send abuse notification to (e-mail address removed)
netname: BT-ADSL
descr: Broadband Business
[...]

Easy, isn't it

/Thomas

 

[xarax]

Sounds like an attempt to "astroturf"



http://www.angelfire.com/nj2/edcurry/astroturf.html

http://www.uow.edu.au/arts/sts/sbeder/PR.html

Cut to the chase:

Artificially created grassroots coalitions are referred to in the
industry as 'astroturf' (after a synthetic grass product). Astroturf
is a "grassroots program that involves the instant manufacturing of
public support for a point of view in which either uninformed
activists are recruited or means of deception are used to recruit
them."

 

[Galen Boyer]

You ignorant shower of idiots

LOL, I have to give kudos to this line. He may be full of
hogwash, but great line.