Newbie here

J

Jonathan N. Little

K said:
Some people would rather spend fifteen minutes putting someone down
than spend 15 minutes helping them. That's just the way things are.

That may be true, but with respect to this thread, help was offered.
 
C

Chaddy2222

Jonathan said:
Not sure what type of "support" that you were expecting, some
"Barney-fied" saccharine cheer that "Everyone's a star!" and "Your
effort is all that counts!" Folks here expect when asked for advice to
give *real* advice.


Why, would rather ask advice from someone who knows *less* than you do
on the subject? You are not being put down but your work was criticized
and problems were identified and solutions were supplied. Sounds like
helpful advice to me.


Sometimes "free" has a *real* price. There are some very real
impediments to such arrangements and hosting. Can be a real handicap,
especially for a beginner.

Ahh yes, maybe, maybe not.
Yes it probably is well out of 1995. How else is one meant to learn

True, but would you not say that it would be easier to learn something
correctly once, rather than learn an obsolete method only to have to
unlearn it to relearn the correct method? BTW, the current method of
HTML & CSS is far easier to maintain then à la 1995. There are other
benefits as well.
I tend to agree, I have been designing sites (mainly as a hobby) since
2004 and started off without a clue about what HTML was. I am now at
the stage where I am starting to have a go at programming with PHP.
While still trying to advance my way through learning more CSS tips and
tricks.
Which is exactly what BTS offered! Maybe you should traverse the link he
suppled:

See http://htmldog.com/

I believe others here will agree that you will gain much from the
information offered. Read it, digest it, try again with your site, and
come back when you want some real dialog.

I agree.
Not sure what you hoped for? Would you attempts to build a house without
researching carpentry, or farming without knowledge of seed, soil and
fertilizer?


Believe it or not we all were beginners. Whether or not you progress
beyond such status depends on you and whether or not you are receptive
to learning.
Yep.


As he stated, he did nothing wrong. Links are to be used. If your form
requires certain valid data, it is up to you, the designer, to put
validation into your script. If not, your form is most likely a handy
tool for hackers to relay spam. When you are ready to learn many here
can advise you as to methods to secure your form.
Yes, this topic is a bit of a tricky issue, because even if you have a
really good server side script to process and validate the form, it
still runs the risk of just maybe being hacked. Or spammed.

The only rudeness I have seen is your reaction. There were honest
attempts to assist you in this thread.


What can I say, this is not a productive way to ask for assistance, and
does not speak well for your etiquette.
Yes and considering that the majority of people in this NG aint
americans....... That comment was well..... Dare I say it, rood and
quite nasty really.
 
E

Ed Mullen

Andy said:
You're welcome. I hate to see bad coding techniques being taught, and
I _really_ hate to see newcomers being taught them, as if it's the best
that it gets.

As I said, good HTML isn't just better, it's also far easier --
particularly if you're taught the right way from scratch.



Mainly because it's cheapskate. And wide experience of cheapskate
hosting suggests that if they're bad for one aspect like this, they'll
also be bad for other aspects that you really care about, like service,
reliability, or not wanting to relinquish a domain name that you've
registered and paid for.

Technically, framed hosting has some bad effects on search engines
(search the group archives) but it's the commercial aspect that mainly
makes me worried.

Not to mention that it prevents users from easily bookmarking individual
pages on a site, as is the case with the OP's.

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Ed Mullen
http://edmullen.net
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Can you buy anything specific at a general store?
 

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